Younger Women Who Like Older Men

Younger Woman Liking An Older Man

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Younger Women Who Like Older Men

An actual pic from my Facebook feed. The above is an actual, real post from my Facebook feed a little while back. The girl is real and this is something she really did, and it was no joke. She meant it. It made me smile, for obvious reasons. Just to be clear, the guy in the background is not me. It may be a little hard to see in the pic, but the guy is much older than this gal, who is quite young (though legal).

-By Caleb Jones

This girl is what I call in my terminology a Type 2 VYW.  Check the glossary for more details, but it essentially means she's a younger women who's into older men. I have vast experience with much younger women, and this simple picture nicely demonstrated many things about this wonderful animal, the Type 2 VYW.  The comments on the photo were also very entertaining, not only from what she was saying (and doing) but the reaction from her other young friends, some of which was not positive as you might imagine.

First, note his obvious receding hairline. This is not only a masculine trait, but a trait that clearly signals "OLDER guy". During most of the last several years I was clearly balding (until I fixed it) yet I was still able to score with lots and lots of VYW (women age 18 to 23). I found it amazing that my growing baldness didn't disqualify these women. The primary reason it didn't is because I'm a woman-experienced, confident, outcome independent guy, so those traits made up for it.

However the other reason, one I didn't initially consider, is that because those Type 2 gals are strongly attracted to other men, the fact that I was starting to go a little bald actually, in a bizarre sort of way, made things a little more exciting for them. I know that makes no sense, but I'm telling you this is true. In the comments on this photo, several people were commenting on this guy's receding hairline in a very negative way, but she did not care. Moreover I think, at least on a subconscious level, his receding hairline is part of what attracted her to him.

Be sure you understand what I'm saying here. I'm not saying balding heads attract women. I'm saying they attract Type 2 VYW, which is a very particular type of woman. The good news is, as you can see from the photo, many Type 2 VYW are very attractive. I've dated many VYW as a much older man that were hotter than the women in my wildest fantasies when I was a young AFC.

Many older guys, when trying to attract much younger women, will purposely try to look and act younger. These guys are making a huge mistake and I'm constantly trying to correct them. By doing this, they are damaging the very traits that attract the Type 2 women to them. If you're an older guy and want to date younger women the best thing you can do is to act your age. I have done this many times with many younger gals, and it works every time.

Next, look at how this guy is dressed. He's dressed in a shirt and tie, a full-on business outfit. I have said many times before that Type 2's are wildly attracted to men in suits. Often on first dates with women 18, 19, or 20 years old, I will go out of my way to wear a full-on suit because I know how effective it is.

The reason they like suits is the exact same reason why a lot of older dudes are attracted to younger women in cheerleader outfits. It exacerbates the age difference, thus making it all the more taboo, forbidden, exciting, and sexual. I discovered this years ago completely on accident. Years back, several times while dating various VYW I would occasionally walk into a room wearing a suit after a day at the office, and my 18, 19, or 20 year-old FB or MLTR would go into horny hysterics about how "hot" I looked. After this happened several times with several different girls, all of which with very different personalities, I learned. Type 2's love dudes in suits.

I promise you that if the older guy in the picture was wearing jeans and a T-shirt, she still would have been attracted, but not nearly as much.
Lastly, notice that his tie is pink. Now, I don't wear pink ties. I don't wear pink anything. Jesus. The point is the pink tie looks decent on him, especially with his darker skin tone. The pink tie signifies that he knows how to dress.

This is not only important to all dating and seduction but it plays a very special role if you're an older guy going after much younger women. Younger gals are used to hanging out with young guys who dress too raggedy or too nerdy. But when those Type 2's see an older guy who's dressed nice (like an "older man" would dress) and with a clear sense of color coordination and fashion, it's a winning combination on several levels.

Only about 20% (or so) of women age 18 - 23 are Type 2's. The rest are Type 1's (girls who are disgusted at the thought of fucking a much older man) and Type 3's (girls who don't judge a man based on age one way or the other).

This means that not only must you put in the numbers (as always!), but you must carefully calibrate your game so as to make it easy for these Type 2's to notice you and respond well to you when you open them. These days this stuff has become so automatic to me I don't even think about it any more. Moreover, the guy in the pic had no idea what he was doing to this cute gal. At one point, she even purposely dropped something in front of him and bent over (or something). When he didn't look at her she assumed he was "gay".
Assuming this guy wasn't gay, he missed a huge opportunity. (One I assure you I would not have missed.)
For you guys over 30...remember...those Type 2's are out there, patiently waiting for you.

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This article was originally published on December 12, 2012
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  • lifeofalovergirl 2012-12-12 15:54:30

    Liking a guy in a suit is far from just being a "type 2" trait. That's like saying only a certain "type" of guy likes women in lingerie. Suits are just hot on a guy. They make him appear put together and imply status and wealth more than age. Also, the Professor is balding and I like it for whatever reason but I'm not particularly into old men, lol. He's only 8 yrs older than me. The pink though...bleah. I always think guys in pink are either gay or Frat boys. Frat boys in their matching pink polos just don't do it for me, but then maybe that's because I don't go for younger guys either. LOL

  • peter 2012-12-12 16:10:59

    Do you think these type 1/2/3s are a result of societal influence, or inherent qualities? In other words, do type 1 and 2 actually exist, or are they just all type 3s but some of them have daddy issues and some of them have different daddy issues? I wonder how the hypothetical "natural" uninfluenced woman feels about it...

  • Blackdragon 2012-12-12 16:40:09

    It does explain some of it but it's not that simple. Type 1 or Type 2 status can have many other sources besides daddy issues. For example, a girl's dad's age is a big factor. If you're 40 and she's 19 but her dad is also 40, she's far more likely to be a Type 1 even if she has no daddy issues at all. If you're 40 and her dad is 57, she's more likely to be at least a Type 3. The bottom line is not all Type 1s or 2s have daddy issues, but certainly many of them do.

  • dirk 2012-12-12 17:12:52

    Isn't it illegal to publish photos of strangers without permission in the US?

  • Peter 2012-12-12 17:23:29

    I guess i meant "daddy issues" to mean more "generic family or cultural situation" where the woman has spent most of her life. I'm not trying to suggest that type 1/2s have something wrong with them. I'm just curious as to the root cause of the differences.

  • Blackdragon 2012-12-12 18:22:08

    @Dirk - I don't know, but I did black out her eyes. If it is illegal and something actually enforced, I guess I'm going straight to jail along with the vast majority of people I know as well as the owners of the majority of web sites I commonly see, including many sites who have put up pictures of me without my permission. @Peter - I'm not sure if all women are "born Type 3s" but family dynamics do have a huge amount to do with it. I would love to see a true psychological study (using real science) on this. It would be fascinating. Sadly this topic still pisses a lot of people off so I doubt I'll ever see such a thing.

  • Larry 2012-12-13 09:59:15

    Hey Blackdragon! My one comment on this older guy is he also has the (alpha, wide chest/athletic look) and he is spread out, taking up space. So, if your a skinny wimpy unkempt (Larry three stooges, look) your out of luck:) I'm 51 myself and in good shape, I'm glad I found your blog last year, thanks. Larry, from NH

  • Tailgunner 2012-12-14 22:21:34

    Every so often I encounter a super hot young woman who seems to behold me as if mesmerized, as if she is rapt at the feet of a god (perceptive girl 😉 ). Since in most cases this is almost before I have even said hello, I now know to think "Type 2, set phasers on 'stun' "!

  • Bm 2012-12-19 06:47:16

    agree lovergirl he look like he got cash and a career its what the older guy in suit about, chances are he establish financially =money

  • Chris 2014-06-13 00:48:36

    Hey BG. If a woman seems to vibing fine with you then all of a sudden just straight up asks "how old are you??" with that skeptical look, how do you usually respond? Do you redirect the question? Just confidently blurt out your age with no hesitation? Change the subject? Lie?

  • Blackdragon 2014-06-13 11:10:22

    You have several options: 1. Make it a game. Tell her to guess. 2. Initially dodge it but then do tell her. "I'm six years younger than Robert Downey Jr." 3. Turn it around on her. Look at her suspiciously and ask, "Wait a old are YOU?" Make her young age the negative. 4. Just smirk, confidently tell her your real age, then change the subject and keep right on going with the good conversation. The point is to A) not lie (though playful dodging is okay) and B) not get nervous about the question.

  • Aleigh 2014-09-11 08:01:54

    I hate being a type 2 and very young, I'm expected to be the naive unintelligent easy 18 year old in high school they can just screw to fulfill a fantasy and then sayanara, and expected to be slutty the girl who can "screw in an empty highschool classroom" I hide I'm a type 2 because of the exceptions and wants I'm expected to give and it sucks that I'm actually a minority of a smart 18 year old.

  • Blackdragon 2014-09-11 11:40:26

    I know exactly what you're talking about and I know how difficult it is. I can tell you that it starts getting much easier in a few years. Small reassurance I know.

  • Lee 2015-07-31 11:20:03

    But I feel so guilty admitting I find younger [legal aged] women so desirable.

  • Blackdragon 2015-08-04 16:52:22

    I feel so guilty admitting I find younger [legal aged] women so desirable.
    False societal programming. Buy my book and get that washed out of your head. Older men attracted to younger (legal) women are behaving normally and in a healthy manner. It's exactly what your biology desires, for very clear biological reasons. It's nothing to be ashamed about. As Scott Adams once said: "Society is organized in such a way that the natural instincts of men are shameful and criminal while the natural instincts of women are mostly legal and acceptable."

  • iopjkl 2016-09-06 06:16:02

    When he didn’t look at her she assumed he was “gay”.
    That's one of the ways female cocks have of regaining their inflated egos' comfort after being rejected :).

  • C.A. 2016-10-03 16:05:34

    Sorry, I'm late to the party here. BD, what do you think about lying about your age to younger women if you're only looking for a fling? I'm 40 but I look a bit young for my age. Most people guess I'm late 20s, no more than early 30s, I've even had some think I'm mid 20s. So I have kind of a weird conundrum, I probably won't attract the young women who like the look of older guys because I look young, and most girls in their 20s automatically assume I'm close to their age and then I feel like if I come out and say I'm 40 I'm going to scare the cat. In my circumstance(older guy who looks young) do you think it's better to just lie about your age or play it up?

  • Blackdragon 2016-10-03 17:25:39

    BD, what do you think about lying about your age to younger women if you’re only looking for a fling?
    The rule of thumb is that you should never lie unless all you want are one night stands. Then go ahead and do whatever you want. The problem in ongoing relationships, even FBs, that she'll eventually find out, and then you'll get drama. Worse case you could fudge your age a little bit all the way to the end of the first date or second date, and then tell her how old you are. But it's all up to you. I've never lied to an ongoing woman about my age, and I look about 8-10 years younger than my numerical age. But that's me.

  • Deirdre Serfontein 2016-12-01 14:42:28

    oh people....  isnt the aging process interesting!!!!!!!

  • Steven Lauer 2017-06-02 17:38:59

    What are some other traits of the Type 2 to look for?

  • Greg J. 2018-03-22 19:31:24

    Here's the bottom line, in the final analysis, one has got to be one's self, because they may begin thinking your all that and a bag o chips but image casts a long shadow and hot girls/woman whateva have tiny little attention spans if you put on an act yeah you might get laid but I don't know many guys that can be with a hot girl and then just shove off, guys get feelings quicker that girls sometimes, then if you have some phony front put on it won't be long before you will naturally turn into who you are. A piece is a piece, it's, all the same, they just come with different issues. The reason why so many people are stuck into unhappy marriages and or relationships is that nobody can seem to be themselves and just be content alone, instead of learning about themselves they run out and find someone else. Happy will never come through another person, or an outside stimulus it will only come from within, you will always be left or let down or cheated on. I have been laid plenty in my life, and not one of them meant a damn thing in the end. Love is not lust and lust always fades no matter who you are with, but love lives forever. I spent 10 years with a very hot woman 20 years my jr. had 2 kids with her, but the 7 year itch hit her like a ton of bricks,she left me for a younger man, I take good care of myself which is one of the reasons I was able to land her, but even though my sex life rocked and it rocked! I was very unfulfilled and unhappy, she was a what have you done for me lately girl, financially irresponsible still is, and the younger guy she left me for? After 7 years now I am still the same he looks like a doughboy with a giant beer belly, oh! That's gotta hurt now she's F'd because she could not be alone and perceived his neediness as him having it bad for her while I saw it as a tool to try to control her. He is very insecure. I know she feels stuck now, even though she goes out of her way to tell me how happy she is now. It hurts deep but I never let em see me sweat. I say, 2 things 1. Learn how to be alone and love yourself, not having anyone to answer to rocks! 2. Sex is vastly overrated,  don't get involved immediately after a relationship goes south, love yourself! Any first impression will always fade, then the very thing that attracted them to you will end up being what she leaves you for. 3. Find a woman who had a great childhood with 2 loving parents, she just might stay with you, it's all about how we were raised. Looks ALWAYS  fade, my mom used to say , wanna know what a woman is gonna look like when she ages? Look at her mother. Eeeh Have you ever had your heart broken by a girl then see her like 7-10 years later and go "whew" I can't believe i was all broke up over that. Heh, I bet it happens alot, one of my ex's that was very hot in the 90's now looks like a fat little troll, kinda like how Linda Ronstat aged. Lol we all get old and end up looking like Grama Joad or grandpa, so WTF be yourself and attract the woman that is looking for you. PS. Chicks who are nerds are the best of them all, especially if cute, nerd chicks are smart,non materialistic and just great company .