Ten Ways To Get Laid On Tinder

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Ten Ways To Get Laid On Tinder

When it came to using the smartphone dating app called Tinder, I purposely held off for about a year. I don't like being an early adopter. I prefer a technology to be nice and tested before I start using it to create real results in my life. In addition, I'm a big Android guy and Tinder was only available on iOS for quite a while.

-By Caleb Jones

A few weeks ago, it was time to get rocking with this. I added Tinder to my regular dating site repertoire (even though Tinder is not a site, it's an app) and did regular blitzes with it just like it was any other dating site. My results were spotty but okay. I quickly got two first dates, had sex with one of them, plus as of this writing there is another highly likely lay from a third woman. The good news is it took me only a few minutes of actual "online opening time" to get to the point where I was messaging these women, and that's where Tinder really shines.

Regardless, even though there's a lot of good about Tinder there's also a lot of downsides. A lot. My overall opinion is that the technology is mildly useful, but it's still new enough where the kinks aren't worked out yet. I think that over the next few years, when other dating apps go into competition against Tinder, we'll start seeing much better systems than the "smartphone swipe" system of dating we have now with Tinder and similar apps.

I think of Tinder as Betamax/VHS, which were really great when they first came out...but DVD and Blu-rays are just around the corner. In this post I will lay out all the pros and cons of using Tinder, as well as techniques to overcome or take advantage of these things.

1. Tinder is extremely time efficient.

Like I said, this is the one area where Tinder is mind-blowingly awesome. All you do is swipe pictures of women left or right based on if you like them or not. You can literally blast through 100 women in just a minute or two. Women are doing the same, and if any women you swipe also swipe you (and swipes don't have to happen at the same time; they can even happen days or even weeks apart), then you're notified, and you can then message that woman and vice versa. This is really powerful, especially if you live in a larger city. Never have I been able to "sort" such large amounts of women so fast and so quickly.

2. Tinder is not very good for men dating outside of their age range.

This disadvantage is a huge one, probably Tinder's biggest, but it won't affect a lot of men out there even though it affects me a great deal. When you start using Tinder, it limits you to just seeing pictures of women in your own age range, based on whatever your age is stated in your Facebook profile (Tinder is Facebook-based.) The good news is that you can modify this age range in the settings. The bad news is that most women don't do this, and probably don't even know this is an option.

So if you're trying to date much younger women, you have a big problem using Tinder. You will see these younger women as swipe choices, but the vast majority of these women won't ever be seeing you, because they're not going to know (or bother) to change their own settings to find much older guys. The vast majority of matches I got were women around my age (including the one I had sex with).

I know what you're thinking: "Just change your age!" You can't, because you'd have to change your age in Facebook, and Facebook is very pissy about that sort of thing.

My thought is to set up a second Facebook account using my same good photos, then making that account look like I'm 21 years old, then stating in my Tinder profile that "I'm not 21 obviously, I'm much older than that. Hit me up if you're curious." or something similar. The problem with doing this is it will seriously screw up the amount of hot women I will be swiping through, since my fake FB profile will have a small amount of Facebook friends (more detail on that in a moment). Regardless, I might experiment with that after the first of the year. Of course if you are already dating women your own age, none of this will be an issue for you. Just install the Tinder app and go crazy.

3. There are flakes and non-responders on Tinder just like any other dating site.

Just because you get a match does not mean she'll respond to you if you text her. Many matches you get will never talk to you even after you send them an opener. This surprised me. Why would they not talk to me if we matched and she clearly liked my photos? It could be many reasons. Maybe she was a fake. Maybe she found a BF. Maybe she was just screwing around. Maybe she lives too far away (more on this below). Maybe she's scared. Whatever. Just don't be surprised if your openers to some of your matches go unanswered. This is normal.

4. Tinder's system for finding women "near you" is all fucked up.

This is the second big problem with Tinder. Let's say some hot chick on Tinder who lives 2000 miles away from you is visiting her family who lives just 10 miles from you. You swipe that you like her, and later she swipes you after getting back to her home town. Now you're a match, and start talking. When you pitch a date, you both figure out that you're 2000 miles away from each other. Then you throw your phone across the room because of all the time you just wasted.

This happens on Tinder a LOT. Whenever you start talking to a new woman, the very first question you need to ask her is what city she lives in. I'm serious. Just get into the habit of doing that; you'll waste much less time. (You'll notice some women will ask you this question right off the bat...that means you're dealing with a seasoned Tinder user.) There's a ray of sunshine behind every cloud, however. I found a very cute flight attendant like this...she lives very far away but visits my city often. She could work out to be a great occasional FB. We'll see.

5. All the usual photo techniques not only apply to Tinder, but they apply more so than on a dating site. 

Everything I have ever said on this blog or my ebooks about proper online dating photos go double for Tinder. Tinder is 100% photo-based. You can write a little text for a "profile" of sorts but most people don't do this and even fewer will read it. No, it's all about your photos baby. My strong suggestion is to put just ONE or TWO of your BEST photos on your Tinder profile and that's it. Then get swiping.

If you don't have any REALLY good photos, hit up Craigslist, find a cheap photographer, and get some taken. Messing with Tinder when your photos aren't the best they can possibly be is going to be a waste of your time.
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6. Because Tinder is so new, women don't know how to use it correctly, and this will cost you some potential dates and lays.

There are several stories I could tell to explain this, but I'll give you my favorite so far. There was a really hot blonde who was very interested in meeting up with me. We had a brief conversation over Tinder. The next day she sent me a message that started "I'm closing my Tinder account. If you want to get a hold..." and that's all I saw on the preview pop-up on my Android phone. When I clicked the message to bring up Tinder to read the rest, her name and all of our messages were gone from my list of women. Why? Because she deleted her Tinder account, so it blew her away from my list!

She had sent me her contact information in a Tinder message, then deleted her Tinder account. She didn't know doing that would make it impossible for me to read her last message to me. I lost out on a potential new FB/MLTR. Grrr.... Just realize that until people get the hang of this new system, there will be screw-ups like this along the way, with either you or the women as the cause.

7. There are scammers on Tinder. Be careful.

Apparently this is less of a problem than it used to be, but it still happens regularly. Sometimes on Tinder you'll get some cute girl who matches you, and as soon as you start the conversation she gets really, really sexual very quickly. Just block her and move on. These are webcam girls trying to score cash. There's quite a few on there but the amount has gone way down (in terms of as a percentage of total profiles), and will continue to go down as time goes on.

8. You can check other photos on a woman's profile if you're not sure if you like her, or if she has pictures of other women on her profile and you don't know which one she is.

Instead of swiping left or right, you can tap on a woman's photo and it will bring up other photos of her that you can swipe through, then you can click a like or dislike button at the top of the screen.

With about one out of every seven or eight women you'll have to do this, because a lot of women are dumb enough to have their primary photo be of them with female friends, so you'll have no idea which one is the actual Tinder girl. Some women go the extra extreme and have ALL their photos be with the same girlfriends, meaning you have no idea who she is even if you look through her photos. Pretty funny. Again, as smartphone app-dating becomes a more normal thing in society, less and less women will make these kinds of mistakes.

9. Because Tinder is Facebook-driven, the hotness of women is based on the hotness of your Facebook friends and their Facebook friends.

I don't have that many Facebook friends, but many of the ones I do have are very attractive women and men who know a lot of attractive women. As a result, there were (and still are) hordes of super hot women on my Tinder, far more so than on any other dating site I've ever used in my life. This is a very nice, unexpected benefit of having a "hot" Facebook social circle. Given this, it might make sense for you to friend request a bunch of attractive women on Facebook, and/or women or men who know a lot of attractive women (like DJs, bartenders, photographers, musicians, and models) and do this BEFORE you start going crazy with Tinder. Doing this will make a really big difference in the quality of women you can comb through.

For you older guys, notice that this element will severely limit you if you make a fake Facebook profile to overcome the age issue. What you'll probably have to do to make the most of this is to create a fake Facebook profile that uses your real name, just one or two great photos, then friend request as many hot people as you can without getting banned or suspended from Facebook. (A dicey procedure.) Once done, then go crazy with Tinder once you've built up a decent amount of Facebook friends.

If you're thinking that sounds like a lot of hassle just to use Tinder, you're right. It might not be worth it for us older guys.

10. Every other Blackdragon online dating rule and technique works great with Tinder.

Everything else I talk about regarding online dating, like being outcome independent, pitching the date very fast, getting her off the dating site (or in this case, app) to some other form of communication as fast as possible, Comfort Bombardment, etc, works great with Tinder. Once a woman is even mildly interested in you, just treat Tinder like any other dating site....there's no difference.

As a matter of fact, the date-flaking women are actually lower on Tinder, since the mere fact she's talking to you on Tinder already proves that she really likes your photos. On a dating site, often this is not the case.

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This article was originally published on December 15, 2013
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  • Sparks 2013-12-15 06:53:55

    I've been using Tinder for about 10 days now. Got 7 matches so far, varying in age from age 19 to 36. The two 19 year olds were really cute, I've had to change my age on Facebook to 29 (I'm really 37 but most people think I'm in my late 20's lol). I messaged 5 of my matches but only one girl has actually responded to me and only then for a couple of messages. The Tinder messenger app is terrible, full of glitches. Sometimes it sends double messages, sometimes a message you send is instantly deleted so it's hard to keep a conversation going.. I agree with you BD that there are a serious amount of hot girls on it, way more than any other site I've used. This leads me to believe that Tinder is actually worse than in terms of girls only being on there for validation or to see how many 'hot guys' like them and have no intention of dating anyone.

  • Sparks 2013-12-15 07:14:17

    Damn touchscreen phone. Meant to say Tinder is actually worse than POF or OKC in terms of girls only being there for validation.

  • Blackdragon 2013-12-15 10:20:29

    I’ve had to change my age on Facebook to 29 (I’m really 37 but most people think I’m in my late 20′s lol).
    Did you have FB warn you that you would never be able to change your age again?
    The Tinder messenger app is terrible, full of glitches.
    Completely agree. In no way is the tech perfected yet. We're going to have to wait another year or two at least.
    Tinder is actually worse than POF or OKC in terms of girls only being there for validation
    Not sure if I agree. On POF or OKC, a girl can instantly receive a bunch of openers telling her how hot she is. On Tinder, you get matches, not openers. Some guys will open you in addition to matches but not all. A girl can't open her Tinder app and see hundreds of needy, ass-kissing openers like she can on POF or OKC. My guess is that pure validation whores will eventually get bored with Tinder and go back to online dating sites where validation is easier. Just a guess on my part...time will tell.

  • Trouble.Maker 2013-12-15 10:53:07

    A tip about the second account - it will NOT give you matches until you have enough matches and are "active" enough on Facebook. I didn't want to reactive my "real" Facebook, so I made a new one. Tinder gave me no people in the area, so I added new friends and started posting status updates. I hit 50 friends and still didn't have anyone showing up. Reactivated my "real" Facebook, logged into Tinder, and had hundreds of girls. So, it will not be as easy as just making a second account and adding a couple of pictures.

  • Blackdragon 2013-12-15 11:36:27

    Well, damn. There goes my theory. Thanks for the heads up. Looks like the only real option is to change the age on your Facebook page and hope Facebook doesn't ban/suspend your profile if you do it too often. Or just skip Tinder as an option all together until a better system comes along (which I'm sure will).

  • Trouble.Maker 2013-12-15 11:56:55

    It still may be worth a shot. It's easy to build up friends just by joining a group on FB dedicated to adding randoms. Ultimately though, I don't know the algorithms that Tinder uses to determine what matches to give you. I had heard it was 50 friends to get matches, and once I hit that I just kinda lost interest. I also think having real mutual friends is a bit of preselection at work - so having an account with random friends in which you don't know any of them could be seen as, well, weird. I will say this - once you get the girls from Tinder out on a date, they're very, very easy to get into bed.

  • juicebunny 2013-12-15 19:15:36

    So just to be clear, if you're a guy who has never used Facebook then Tinder will have zero matches? Back when Tinder first came out I made a "fake" Facebook profile ( I don't have a real one either ). I had zero friends or posts, but it gave me millions of girls to swipe. Fast forward a bit and I go to use it again. It says it needs to update to the latest version. MmmmmK lets get the update. Then after the update ZERO girls show up. What I'm wondering is how exactly does Tinder utilize your Facebook posts and number of friends to show you girls which can be swiped? Does a guy with 500 friends get to swipe more than a guy with 100 friends? What if you're friends with only 500 guys, and no girls on Facebook? Will that fuck you up? Or does it go by account age?

  • Greg 2013-12-15 19:48:12

    I don't even use Facebook and have no plans to either, as I find it to be a total waste of time, so an app that isn't aligning itself with it, would be better.

  • Ken 2013-12-15 20:18:45

    Seems like the algorithm is just trying to screen out fake FB accounts, as opposed to being smart enough to figure out how "hot" your FB friends are. I wouldn't say my FB circle is particularly "hot", but I still get hundreds of hot girls showing up on Tinder. I'm ten years older than BD, so I have the same age issue. I changed my FB age to 21. Yes, FB told me I can never change it again. So what? It is hidden on my actual FB profile anyway. (Actually, you can change it twice, and then no more. They enforce a delay of several days between the first and second time.)

  • Ken 2013-12-15 20:21:49

    I find it is not worth the time to check out a girl's additional photos. Just do the swipe thing. If you're not sure, give her the benefit of the doubt. In the unlikely event you actually get a match, you can do further screening at that time before deciding to talk to her or not. Not worth the effort up front.

  • Ken 2013-12-15 20:27:58

    BTW ... just check the profile before you start messaging ... you can see exactly how many miles away from you she is.

  • Blackdragon 2013-12-15 21:22:19

    I have less than 300 FB friends, and probably post something there less than once a month, and my selection on Tinder is just fine. That being said my FB account is many years old; that may have something to do with it. (That's only a guess.) It definitely sounds like changing your age and using a "real" FB account is your only option. I may consider changing my FB age just for Tinder use, but this inflexibility is a real shame. Like I said in the article, Tinder is the shitty "1.0" version of what's coming down the road in a few short years.

  • how to Get Laid 2013-12-16 01:54:59

    Don't like Tinder nor had too much luck with it...

  • Sparks 2013-12-16 06:06:10

    "Did you have FB warn you that you would never be able to change your age again?" They said I could change it one more time so I have just left it at 29. It's hidden on my FB profile anyway.

  • FoooFooo 2013-12-16 15:51:05

    I'm wondering if the following would work: Go to a black market site, and for $20 - $30 bucks you can buy a Facebook account with 1000 or more friends. If you're able to specify a male account and set the age, then just buy one of these and you should be set. I'm thinking 1000 friends, even if they are dudes would still qualify you to see women in you're GPS area. BD what do you think?

  • Blackdragon 2013-12-17 12:17:48

    Based on what other commenters have said, that may not work, but I'd say it'd be worth $20 to find out. Give it a shot and let us know. I'll even make a follow-up blog post about this stuff if enough of you try these experiments.

  • Parade 2013-12-17 21:49:12

    It's something more than just a bunch of friends -- I created a new account that now has ~100 friends (who are mostly connected with one another), and still has no matches. My main FB account does no better.

  • Blackdragon 2013-12-18 12:14:42

    Another thing I realized - Getting (or purchasing) a bunch of random FB friends wouldn't help, because all of their friends would most likely be far away from you. Sadly, it looks like changing your age on your main FB account is the answer, for those willing to do that.

  • Casey Vidgen 2013-12-18 15:00:21

    I stopped using tinder a few weeks ago… too many douches for my liking lol. My coworker showed me cliqie.com and I’m a big fan of that over the others in terms of actually meeting people vs. just entertainment. It has a different approach that feels less sketchy cause you and your friends essentially act as “wingmen”. I like that it helps you find things to do too. Skout’s okay too, but still has it’s fair share of creepers

  • En 2013-12-18 15:41:50

    That's actually still valuable information though - it seems Ken was correct. It's just a binary check to see whether or not it is a real Facebook account. It doesn't actually make an attempt to determine how hot you and your friends are, etc. That's drastically easier to get around than a system designed to change your matches based on some unknown factors of your FB account. At least you know that you are good as long as you are seeing matches.

  • Ben 2013-12-18 16:25:05

    For what it's worth, I don't have an active FB account and use Tinder. I made one, but have no friends. I still get matches.

  • Mary 2014-02-02 00:18:00

    I'm a lady who uses Tinder a lot - if you only have one or two photos up I assume you are nowhere near as hot as your photos suggest and are hiding some physical flaw so I swipe left. If I've already swiped right and you don't have enough photos I'm definitely not meeting up with you!

  • Blackdragon 2014-02-02 10:39:10

    But I wonder how many women are taking the time to look at ALL of a guy's photos. Most women are probably just swiping left and right without checking. You may be an exception to this rule.

  • William W. 2014-02-19 13:59:58

    BD, in the blog post you say: "For you older guys, notice that this element will severely limit you if you make a fake Facebook profile to overcome the age issue. What you’ll probably have to do to make the most of this is to create a fake Facebook profile that uses your real time" Uses your real time? What does that mean?

  • Blackdragon 2014-02-19 15:10:12

    It was a typo. Sorry about that. Corrected. "...that uses your real name."

  • 648262 2014-04-20 12:42:17

    How does the age matching work? What age envelope will a 23 year old girl have as default setting?

  • Blackdragon 2014-04-21 11:51:01

    I not on Tinder at the moment so I can't give you exact numbers, but my good guess is that a 23 year-old girl would have a default age range of 18 to about 29 in her Tinder. This means if you were 34 she would never see you on her swipes. She would have to manually go in and change her default age settings (which the vast, vast majority of women on Tinder never do) or you would have to fudge your age on Facebook to get down into her default range.

  • AFP 2014-04-26 00:21:44

    A couple of things I've noticed: If your Facebook age's privacy setting is "Me Only", you won't get any matches. It needs to be at least "Friends Only". The first people who appear to you when you log back in are often people who have right-swiped you.

  • qwerty90 2014-05-30 23:05:04

    Comment deleted for violation of Rule Number 1.

  • Random 2014-07-07 21:20:08

    You're wrong about the age thing, as well as distance. If you swipe right on a girl, or a girl swipes right on you, it doesn't matter what your distance or age settings are, you or her will show up for the other person to swipe one way or the other regardless of their settings. You are guaranteed to show up for a girl if you swiped them right and vice versa.

  • Anonymous 2014-07-10 02:58:19

    This article encourages older men to lie to attempt to sleep with younger woman. As a twenty-something girl who uses tinder, this all disgusts me. If you want to date younger girls, find a way to do it without being deceitful because this here is the reason younger women feel preyed upon and unsafe daily.

  • Blackdragon 2014-07-10 15:48:48

    This article encourages older men to lie to attempt to sleep with younger woman.
    No it doesn't. Re-read the article. It says one thing an older man can try is to modify his age in the Tinder software so he actually gets matches, but be very clear in his profile he's not the age Tinder is reporting. I always advise honesty when men are dating women, and that includes their age.
    As a twenty-something girl who uses tinder, this all disgusts me.
    This is because you are a Type 1 VYW, as I describe here and here. You are disgusted at older men, which is fine. However I promise that you have several girlfriends your age who really want an older man (Type 2s) as long as he's honest and not creepy.

  • Blackdragon 2014-07-10 15:54:37

    You’re wrong about the age thing, as well as distance. If you swipe right on a girl, or a girl swipes right on you, it doesn’t matter what your distance or age settings are, you or her will show up for the other person to swipe one way or the other regardless of their settings.
    What you're not getting is if she's outside of your age/range settings, you'll (likely) never see her in the first place. You can't swipe a woman you never see.

  • POB 2014-07-23 12:50:00

    Things I found out after passing through tinder 2 times: 1) The age range thing is REAL. I'm a 34 who have no problem at all scoring girls of 19-23. I got none of these from the app cause they don't even bother to change parameters after installation. 2) A lot of girls there don't really want to meet up in person, or don't want to chat at all. Remember, you can pick up your smartphone anywhere and chat for 2 minutes, than 10 seconds later something happens and you forget about the whole thing. Its like turbo poker: it happens fast and you loose if you don't get a grip of things. 3) It has A LOT of bugs. My cue would be to change ASAP the conversation from Tinder to WhatsApp or another instant messenger of your choice, at least till they fix it. 4) Pice of advice: send a strong opener, wait for response and if she text you back, just shoot straight and ask her out. Don't wait 3 or 4 messages to do that. Remeber, Tinder is meant to be fast, and the younger they are, the faster they like the straight to the point approach.

  • Blackdragon 2014-07-23 23:05:50

    Remember, you can pick up your smartphone anywhere and chat for 2 minutes, than 10 seconds later something happens and you forget about the whole thing. Its like turbo poker: it happens fast and you loose if you don’t get a grip of things.
    Very, very good point. Never considered that.

  • POB 2014-07-24 03:37:23

    THX BD! BTW your blog is pure gold man! Your tips clearly have improved my game from good to amazing! Keep up the good work.

  • Asher 2014-11-03 09:43:45

    Did you see the article in this month's Rolling Stone Magazine: "Tinder, Inside the Hookup Factory"? I loved the article, but the app is not going to reach escape velocity and make people billionaires like Rad hopes. Why? Because women don’t need an app to hook up when they can easily pick a guy up at a bar with no effort. An increasing amount of women view Tinder as a game, and the “keep playing” message you get when you’re matched perpetuates this idea. Rad’s claim of being a serial monogamist is absurd, and I just want to slap people when they say this- what you are trying to say is you are non-monogamous. When will hookup culture accept responsible open relationships in addition to meaningless sexual dalliances? Because of that, I see no reason to use Tinder. If you want to get laid online, better sign up for OKCupid or Plenty of Fish. The "game" nature of Tinder just causes women to take it less seriously, and the "hookup" factor causes their ASD to turn on full throttle.

  • ctaxi 2014-11-07 08:02:25

    "This article encourages older men to lie to attempt to sleep with younger woman. As a twenty-something girl who uses tinder, this all disgusts me. If you want to date younger girls, find a way to do it without being deceitful because this here is the reason younger women feel preyed upon and unsafe daily." Honey this is such a pile of crap - grow up you are merely describing how men are and nothing has ever changed there.

  • Nina 2014-11-10 16:07:01

    Don't assume that women are dumb and stupid, we all check the preferences and even have double or triple working accounts (figure out how to do it yourselves), it's our choice to want to meet guys at a certain age, and yeah it's pretty disgusting to lie. why not to choose people who want the same thing and not to force yourselves on anyone? Yes we do look at all the photos and the description, the only reason not to do it is if the first photo was really not in our taste, at least that's what I do. And I personally like to meet as fast as possible and a lot of guys also use it for some ego boost and not really into meeting, so it's not only women's thing. For my short experience the tips I can give you: 1 - wear clothes, maybe the last out of 5 photos when you're on the beach is ok, but no more 2 - wear good clothes, show your style, even if you're not that good looking being dressed well will give extra points. 3 - At least one full face looking straight photo, no extreme close ups at your eyebrows or ears or what ever, i wanna see how you look. 4 - At least one full body photo, if you look like you are hiding it projects insecurity and girls like confidence. 5 - Smile, look positive, we want to have fun eventually.... 6 - Don't: post 5 photos of yourself hugging a motorcycle, we don't give a f***k so keep all the extreme activities to your guy friends. No holding babies, I mean come on on tinder????? No group photos, it's a bit annoying when we like your friend more than you. Btw I write it from europe and i think the dating scene is a bit different from the US, for example I use tinder for real dates and not for one night hookups, good luck.

  • POB 2014-11-18 11:49:02

    Been using tinder for four straight months and I think I can come up with some insights into it. First thing is: your first photo is what really matters. The other ones are there just to close the deal. I'm currently using a very good photo in a tailored black suit with some chick's hand around my forearm. Formal, very good-looking and with tons of implicit social proof. This one does 90% of the job. The other ones are: one very casual full-body (dressed), one half submerged in a pool (shirtless but only with the neck and face above the water line) and one close-up to my face. No fancy cars/motorcycles, no beach photos, no party photos, just plain and simple 100% masculine. Second (and most important time saver!!!): the second you got a match the first thing to do is to discover if she's really interested in: meeting someone up OR is just tinder gaming, fooling around and/or seeking attention. This is a trick one, but with time you'll be able to tell right on the money and at the first interactions. A good way to draw the line (if in doubt) is to ask the the old "have you met someone nice here?". Maybe it's a little beta but it works, believe me! Bad signs: one line responses, one word phrases, no questions about you, more than one day to answer. Good signs: curiosity, complete answers to your questions, disposition to change to any IM outside tinder. This phase is supposed to be FAST, way faster than on POF, OKcupid, etc. It should'nt last more than 48 hours! Third: Filter the bad ones, banther the good ones for a short time (remember, 2 days max) and ask for the IM number (whats app or similar). Don't wait more than that, it's not worth it. If she's not responding ignore or block. And don't try more than two times. STRONG TIP: Don't ask her out on tinder, her ASD will be off the charts even if she likes you! Tried that many times and failed miserably. Forth: On IM, proceed as in a normal dating site until you get the date. If necessary, filter again as some chicks can deceive you and pass the first tinder test. Also, use a really good profile photo on the IM. That detail counts A LOT. That's it! it's fast, it works but you cannot skip some steps in order to get some dates there.

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  • Preethy 2016-01-07 21:35:14

    As a woman this article frightens me. The things a man does to get laid. In my case I'll tell you I prefer more than three pictures lesser than that I don't trust. I prefer them in some social fun surroundings , and one picture with the person alone so I know who it is. If some one connects instagram that's a double thumbs up. . Most girls read the bio trust me they do especially to take the next step.. and I also know a lot of girls who try and avoid older guys , the age range they select is very intentional. There are times I play dumb to get out of a situation doesn't mean I am. Same with a lot of women . The end.

  • Blackdragon 2016-01-07 22:11:05

    As a woman this article frightens me. The things a man does to get laid.
    Yes. You're not supposed to like this web site. It's for men. You should go here: www.girls-with-game.com

    I also know a lot of girls who...

    Anecdotes are not data. If these techniques didn't work, millions of men wouldn't be doing them.

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  • Fox 2016-11-05 12:49:09

    I know this article is 3 years old but if anyone else stumbles upon this and was having trouble on tinder, just change your age on FB. I'm 31, and I found myself getting 2-4 matches per week. I was getting super frustrated. A friend told me about the age switching thing, and once I changed my age to 25, I was getting 3-5 matches per day. Same pictures, same tag line, only thing that changed was my age. For the record, no girl has ever questioned my age. If they find you attractive and you fuck em good, no one gives a shit how old you might be.  

  • JudoJohn 2017-01-19 11:16:13

    Apparently Tinder Plus allows you to hide your age. Any idea if that changes the game?

  • Kyle 2017-02-26 07:25:36

    I live in a town that is too small (300k+) where Tinder is the only dating app with a sizable dating pool. Nonetheless, it's way too small. I use all the recommendations from your books, and first of all let me say, I got laid on Tinder for the first time (had it installed for a year up to that point) on the FIRST MATCH that I applied your advice. Lucky, yes, but 100% coincidence? I don't think so. Since then I've been laid more times in the past year that I was in the past 10, so anyone out there considering buying BD's books, don't hesitate, they are pure gold. That said, I was looking at the numbers, and I feel I am not doing nearly as well as I could be, hoping to get some advice. I just took a look at my Tinder history. I've got 40 matches this month. Of those 40 matches, 30 replied to my opener which is also modeled according to your directions in the books (seems above average right?) BUT I converted only TWO into dates! That seems kind of abysmal. In the books I think you recommend the "what two traits" question immediately, although it's not quite clear....but to me it just seems too bizarre to do that when she hasn't said anything except "hi" or whatever. So I usually ask one tailor-made question based on her photos, then follow up with the"so tell me about yourself, what would you say are your two best qualities...", then I ask her out after that. Trouble is, the "describe your personality" question results in radio silence the large majority of the time...any ideas what I can adjust?

  • Kyle 2017-02-27 00:26:48

    Yeah I double checked. I got 30/40 replies to the opener you suggest, then 28 replies to my first question, then only 12 replies to the second question (your best qualities question) and only 2/12 successful date pitches following that. Those are bad numbers right?

  • Henrik 2020-03-04 10:07:14

    Hey BD, love you content (just found it) and reading all I can. Do you have an update to this post considering Tinder has changed how it works. I liked the idea of getting another Tinder account aged 21 or so and am curious if you have tried that or know of anyone that has (I am 38 and get the same problem you got, only women same age or older and I read somewhere 97% of Tinder users are aged 18-35 or something like that so I am out of luck and need to try something else). I read above these comments might not get answered but posting it anyways if you happen to see it. Thanks and thanks for the great content you put out.