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10 Simple Steps To Solve Any Problem
-By Caleb Jones
Stop being a child and drop the ego. Every human being on Earth, no matter how amazing, has problems. It’s perfectly fine to admit you have them too.
2. Admit the problem is your fault.
Assuming you’re over the age of 18, and certainly if you’re over the age of 25 or so, every condition in your life is a direct result of either you causing it or you refusing to address it. Click that link above for more information.
3. Accept that only you can fix the problem.
Once you admit the problem is your fault, this empowers you to fix the problem, since if it wasn’t your fault, you’d be doomed to suffer this problem (and others) for the rest of your life.
Accept that your mom, dad, relative, friend, mentor, girlfriend, ex-girlfriend, wife, ex-wife, co-worker, boss, organization, politician or government cannot and will not solve your problem for you, no matter how badly your needy, irrational emotions want them to. Only you can solve it. Yes, other people can help a little, but it’s still up to you. No one is going to solve your problem for you while you sit on your ass and do nothing.
I personally take this a step further. Whenever I first sit down to analyze a problem, I start with the subjective belief that no one can help me solve my problems. It’s not 100% true, but it’s a very empowering belief to start with. It puts the responsibly where it belongs: on me.
4. Remind yourself that you deserve to have this problem fixed.
It’s true that you’re not a special snowflake, but it’s also true that you’ve made it this far in life, and that took a lot of work. You’re not a worthless piece of shit. You’re a man, and you deserve happiness.
If you still think that you don’t deserve to live a happy life, seek therapy or counseling. Seriously.
5. Clearly identify the problem, but don’t spend more than 10% of your time on this step.
Now we’re getting down to the nitty gritties. Sit down, calm down, take a deep breath, and clearly, rationally, and dispassionately define exactly what the problem is.
Do not spend a lot of time on this. Define the problem completely and accurately, then move on. Don’t throw a pity party about how horrible the problem is. Boo fuckity hoo, pal. Define the problem, then shut up and move on to the next step. Stop being a pussy. We have enough of those already these days.
6. Write up a simple action plan to solve the problem.
An action plan is simply a to-do list organized by priority and sequence. Write down everything you need to do to solve this problem. Likely, it will be a shorter list than you think. Then organize the list by sequence (tasks that need to be done before others) and priority (place the most important tasks at the top of the list).
7. Be realistic about how long it’s going to take to solve the problem.
In all honesty, some big problems can be solved in 24 hours. Others take a little longer, like a few weeks. Others take a year or two. Whatever it is, don’t delude yourself into thinking you can solve this faster than you actually can. You can’t lose 70 pounds in two months (cue the nitpickers!). Sometimes, near virgins with negative views of sex and/or women contact me wanting to be master PUAs in three months or less. Other times I get guys who want to start a business from scratch and make $4,000 a month in just a few months.
I can't speak for anyone else, but it took me about two years of very hard work to get good with women. It took me five years in the corporate world and another 3.5 years of being self employed, working very hard, for me to get to a six figure income. I’ve been working on losing body fat for almost four years now, and I’m still not done.
Things take time. Be aggressive, but also be realistic. Being unrealistic now will cause discouragement later.
8. Mentally pump yourself up by visualizing how great it will be when the problem is gone.
In order to make any change in your life, you need your subconscious mind on your side. Your subconscious mind doesn't care about facts, numbers, realities, statistics, or common sense. Instead, it's a ranting, raving, stupid four year-old child who only responds to images and feelings.
One of the easiest ways to get your subconscious on your side is either by visualizing or looking at images on the internet. Find some images that get you to feel good, and actually feel good about solving your problem when you look at them. Motivational music also helps. Do whatever works for you, but do it, no matter how corny it feels. Solving problems is sometimes a huge pain in the ass, so you’re going to need all the motivation you can get.
9. Get to work.
Execute your action plan. Try to do something every day, seven days a week, even if it’s something little you do for 10 minutes.
Any time you feel stressed, upset, defeated, or lazy, go back to step 8. Keep going. Don’t stop. Be a man.
10. Don’t beat yourself up if you screw up occasionally.
If your problem is a big one that takes months or years to fix, then trust me, you’re going to screw up. A lot. As Rocky says, this is fine as long as you keep moving forward. Don’t get discouraged. Always keep going back to step 8 when you need to.
And remember, all ten of the above steps are usually required to fix any problem. None of them are optional.
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DJ 2016-07-07 05:31:07
Thanks for the article BD. " I’ve been working on losing body fat for almost four years now, and I’m still not done." - what specifically do you do for weight loss? DJ
Al 2016-07-07 06:20:51
2. Admit the problem is your fault. Assuming you’re over the age of 18, and certainly if you’re over the age of 25 or so, every condition in your life is a direct result of either you causing it or you refusing to address it.This is so important. It is too easy to find someone or something else to blame instead of dealing with it. Good advice, simply put BD. Thank you. 🙂
NTN 2016-07-07 07:40:11
This is a great post for any man who wants to take control of his life.
Jables 2016-07-07 08:21:36
@DJ I myself lost 130 pounds in 6 months (I'm not kidding) by doing the following: 1) Went on a shake-only diet for a month (To stop all the bad eating habits - 800kcal a day) 2) After shake-diet start working out EVERY DAY (at least 5 days a week) (You can start slow, but after a month you should be able to do cardio for an hour without breaks - I used the crosstrainer as it isn't so hard on your legs/knees and you can easily get >1000 kcal an hour) 3) Make sure to eat, but eat well: I personally cut all carbs (That's no bread, no pasta, no rice etc) and only stuck to mountains of vegetables/salad and meat. Stick to it. No exceptions, no candy, no chocolate. I had light soda once in a while when I really craved something sweet. That's about it. I could consistently lose 5-6 pounds a week this way while still getting good results on my studies (MSc. Pharm.) Good luck
Pete 2016-07-07 09:40:55
Takes a while to get in shape. I eat pancakes every morning with straight egg whites. It curves my cravings for the rest of the day and I excersise regularly. Ive lost 12 lbs since this time last year and I am in much better shape..still at 19 percent body fat but I feel and look much better. The trick with any problem in life is to change a few things. In the long run you will maintain. Good way to keep issues at 10 percent is by letting them take cate of themselves with a few simple adjustments. Thanks BD for bringing his fundamental level of thinking back to my attention.
Blackdragon 2016-07-07 11:27:11
what specifically do you do for weight loss?I've done everything; you name it, I've done it, seriously, just watch, guys are going to start recommending I do certain things and I'll say "yeah, I've done that." Most of the things I've tried have worked; I've lost a lot of weight. The problem is every few months I fall off the wagon and have to recover. My weight problem is mental, not physical. It's possible I may suffer from a mild form of food addiction. As I talk about in my book, every man has at least one weak area. Mine has always been fitness. I'll get there, it will just take more time than the typical guy.
J 2016-07-07 12:04:58
Any tips for dealing with mild addictions? I'm dealing with a nicotine problem. Similar to you, I'm good for a month or so then I fall off the wagon.
Blackdragon 2016-07-07 12:11:06
Any tips for dealing with mild addictions? I’m dealing with a nicotine problem. Similar to you, I’m good for a month or so then I fall off the wagon.No no no. I don't fall of the wagon in a month. I can easily go a year or longer. Nicotine is not a "mild" addiction. It's one of the most addictive drugs in existence. (Source: My dad, who was a drug / alcohol counselor for 30 years.) If you're having trouble beating it, you need to seek help. Real drug addiction is beyond the scope of my topics or experience.
POB 2016-07-07 13:40:51
Fitness, as with almost everything in life, is more of a mental problem than anything else. Everybody knows the fundamentals (eat clean, sleep well, exercise). Real trick is to follow them with consistency for long periods of time. It took me more than 10 years (10 years!!!) of serious commitment and real hard work to stop being skinny. Fat loss is a bitch, I know, but picture yourself having to eat massive amounts of food just to keep (or slightly increase) your weight for years and years straight. Not funny uh. The best part is once you get to an optimal point, maintenance is not that hard, and a derail will not take a massive toll on your overall progress. BTW, nice post!
Joelsuf 2016-07-07 19:19:53
I enjoyed this. That 2nd point is something that EVERYONE has a problem with. Seriously, playing the victim is SO common nowadays, and its even crept into the manosphere. PUAs used to bust their ass, put in numbers, and learn how to make themselves better company for chicks. But now? Let's just blame feminism for everything! I'd like to know what you do to remove yourself from victims in your life, on social media or otherwise. I'm seeing a lot of it on my facebook, and its disturbing. "Black Lives Matter" this. "Male privilege" that. "Feminism" this. "Bernie Sanders" that. Its stressing me out. Well maybe not stressing me out, but its annoying. Its like having to be in a room with nothing but little kids fighting for attention. Oh yeah I got your new online dating ebook on Monday, followed just one piece of the advice in it, and got laid the day after. So yeah I'd say its legit lol. Consider it a mini-testimonial haha.
DJ 2016-07-08 00:43:50
BD, I see, in my experience regarding the mental part, it helps to design everything so that it is measurable and has little rewards frequently. That takes advantage of dopamine and other neurochemicals in the brain, much like computer games with constant rewards and level-ups and other addictive things. So it has to be measurable and frequent rewards. I'll share some thoughts: 1) To make it measurable - to lose bodyfat your body needs to burn it for energy (all fat loss diets are high fat diets becuase you're eating your bodyfat). Lipolysis happens when there is no/low glucose intake and low insulin. Then your organism takes bodyfat, liver converts it into ketones, which are then used by brain/muscles for energy instead of glucose. Therefore measuring blood ketone levels is a proxy of whether you're burning bodyfat. I advise getting Precision Xtra meter and sticks for blood ketone measurements (ketone sticks are more expensive than glucose sticks). 2) Frequent rewards - measure ketone levels every day. It will be like playing a computer game with a level-up every day, which releases dopamine and is thus addictive. You can get into ketosis via multi-day fasting or ketogenic diet (below 50g carbs per day excluding fiber, moderate protein, rest fat). Low carb diet has very similar physiological effects to fasting. You probably know most of this stuff, but adding ketone measuring will be helpful for staying on track because it's tangible and can be measured. For more on ketogenic diets look at eatingacademy.com or livinlavidalowcarb.com , these people have done it themselves and presented their results very professionally. And 4 years for weight loss is way too long man, it shouldn't take more than a year unless you're super obese. Think of the opportunities you've missed due to being fat for these three extra years.
jb 2016-07-08 04:23:16
What if you suffer from anhedonia? I've been to doctors and therapists and they have been no help for this condition. I can't feel pleasure from anything really including orgasm, food and socialising. I've never taken drugs but I imagine a vast majority of drug users start taking because life is so boring when they're sober. I have relatives with this and had a good upbringing, parents that loved me etc.
Rod 2016-07-08 10:40:37
Joelsuf wrote: <"Black Lives Matter” this. “Male privilege” that. “Feminism” this. “Bernie Sanders” that.> The thing is, there is still a lot of systematic social inequality in the world, that those on the short end of the stick SHOULD fight for. The US and the entire western world is the result of people standing up and fighting against systematic inequality, chipping away bit by bit over 100s of years to level the playing field as much as possible. But, even as I understand and empathize, I dated a black girl for about a year, and over time her constant pointing out of all the subtile systematic inequality she experienced from a negative place really got to me. I'm not sure the way around it, because, having experienced this first hand in a long term relationship with a black woman, its REAL, and its FREQUENT. For example she'd send two resumes to the exact same place a week or so apart, one with her real name, and one with a "white" name, EVERYTHING ELSE THE SAME, and the white name one would get the response, multiple times over. This is just one example of where "black lives are valued less than white" comes from. This stuff is REAL, it DOES exist with REAL consequences for many many people, its not "victim mentality" any more than George Washington was playing victim to Britain. Anyway. . . its a tough one. For now, I won't date girls like this anymore, even though I 100% think they have a point and SHOULD be taking action to level the playing field. They, unfortunately, can't just tap out like I can as a white man (hence, "white privilege" in the fact that I can simply ignore if I want to, where a black woman cannot, its always in her face). My ex has to deal with this regularly and she has no escape like I do. Its a tough tough issue, she's essentially trapped in a world of negativity stacked against her, and thus its considerably harder for her to see it as an "personal attitude adjustment" when systematically she and all her peers face inescapable regular obvious discrimination and lower levels of opportunity.
Rod 2016-07-08 11:07:10
To wrap up my last post, I guess I don't see these 10 simple steps as solving every problem. They'll work for many problems within a certain degree of control. Many actual existing real world problems need to be fought against, sometimes violently, in order to be resolved. History shows this countless times over.
Blackdragon 2016-07-08 11:41:00
You probably know most of this stuff, but adding ketone measuring will be helpful for staying on track because it’s tangible and can be measured.And here we go: Already did that. Peed on those kitosis sticks. Already doing a ketogenic with intermittent fasting. To repeat, my problem isn't physical or logistical. It's mental.
4 years for weight loss is way too long manCorrect. As you said, it's about 3 years too long.
What if you suffer from anhedonia? I’ve been to doctors and therapists and they have been no help for this conditionRead this post. Summary: Get a second opinion. Then get a third opinion. Then get a fourth opinion. Then get a fifth opinion. Keep going back and going back to new doctors until you get an answer. If all five say you're completely fucked and there's nothing you can do about it (unlikely) then do all the internet research you can on all the ways you can alleviate your condition via lifestyle changes. Again, it's up to YOU.
To wrap up my last post, I guess I don’t see these 10 simple steps as solving every problem.Solve every problem? You're correct. They won't solve every problem. Alleviate and/or improve every problem? Yes they can. These ten steps will do that for any problem you're personally experiencing.
They’ll work for many problems within a certain degree of control.This is part of the whiny left-wing millennial bullshit that is poisoning the very culture you say you want to save. Unless you live in North Korea, everyone has vast control over their own personal environment. This includes black people in racist or semi-racist countries. I've said before that if I was a black person living in the US, and the racism was seriously causing me unhappiness, I would pack my shit, move to Africa (to remove most or all the racism) and use my Western knowledge to start a business and build my fortune. You have zero control over society (which is already fucked), but you have massive control over your own life. Everyone has a choice.
Many actual existing real world problems need to be fought against, sometimes violently, in order to be resolved.World problems are out of your direct control and thus not your concern if you desire a life of long-term consistent happiness. The concern you should have is for your problems and the problems of your very close loved ones. That's it. As I've said many times, you can live a great life even if the world is collapsing all around you. I'm living proof of this. As I've also said many times, when your entire life is perfect (you're making tons of money on low work hours, you've got zero debt and mountains of money in savings, you're getting laid left and right, your health is at least a 8 or a 9, and you're super happy), and you still want to Save The World™ at that time, then fine, go ahead. But focusing on the world before that means you're just wasting your life.
History shows this countless times over.Yep, history shows millions of deluded men suffering and dying to maintain the power of a few fatcat elites at the very top. You deserve a different path. Or at least I know I do.
Joelsuf 2016-07-08 12:06:47
there is still a lot of systematic social inequality in the world, that those on the short end of the stick SHOULD fight for.So they should fight racism and sexism WITH racism and sexism? Cuz that's all I'm seeing. BLM is racist. They put on riots with the direct intent of hurting nonblacks as a form of vengeance. Feminists and SJWs are the same: They want to BECOME the "privileged" individuals who they despise so much, to get back at them. Any group who is interested in empowering their own race/gender IMO is a hate group. Its just that SJWs are disguising this...for now. By the 2020s, hopefully people will realize the truth; that they are no different than Westboro Baptist. But I'm not holding my breath lol
Rod 2016-07-08 12:31:54
Blackdragon: "I’ve said before that if I was a black person living in the US, and the racism was seriously causing me unhappiness, I would pack my shit, move to Africa (to remove most or all the racism) and use my Western knowledge to start a business and build my fortune." This is a pretty silly and unobtainable suggestion for most blacks in America. Its an easy and effortless answer for a white guy to give though. Add to that that most would not achieve "happiness" having ran from the problem, while those they know and love are still dealing with and fighting for basic equality issues back home. "Empathy" plays a huge part in a person's emotional well-being, and this prevents "running" from equaling "happiness" if we're being real. Running makes sense if we're talking about escaping from North Korea or Stalin era Soviet Union, but not so much the US in 2016. Blackdragon: "Yep, history shows millions of deluded men suffering and dying to maintain the power of a few fatcat elites at the very top." History is full of men suffering and dying to right the disadvantages of the underprivileged as well. Straw manning does no good. I guess after dating that black girl and experiencing these things first hand, it bothers me to see how ignorant of their reality so many white people are, like I MYSELF was before this experience. So when Joelsuf's post complained about those who DO stand up for themselves, it stuck a nerve. But again, I get the white guy perspective too, my personal decision was to break up and tap out. I feel like something of a bitch whenever I tap out though, that doesn't necessarily bring "happiness." Emotions seem to be more complex than that. Joelsuf: "So they should fight racism and sexism WITH racism and sexism? Cuz that’s all I’m seeing. BLM is racist. They put on riots with the direct intent of hurting nonblacks as a form of vengeance." I don't know the answer man. You have a group with hundreds of years of systematic suppression, who face clear and obvious near-daily discrimination, being told that the oppression does not exist and to STFU and deal with it. They tend to be under-educated thanks to the snowball effects of their long history of being shat upon, and see violence being taken against them unfairly by those who are supposed to protect. Its very messed up. I don't know the answer, I just know they're not exactly out of line for taking the action necessary to bring their issues to light, and hopefully help correct. It STARTS with white people though, we started this whole thing, and continue to perpetuate it. White people need to step up and take the "personal responsibility" we love to clamor on about, for that fact that as a whole white people are still highly racist and responsible for an onslaught of racism and disadvantage in the typical black person's life on a weekly basis. Of COURSE they're going to react.
Blackdragon 2016-07-08 13:13:17
This is a pretty silly and unobtainable suggestion for most blacks in America. Its an easy and effortless answer for a white guy to give though.It costs about $3k-4k, at most, to move to Africa from America. How long does take to save up $3k? Even for a low income person? 2 years? 3? Please explain to me exactly why this is unattainable for black person but perfectly attainable for a white person. I can't wait for your non-racist answer. By the way, my son is black. It doesn't change the facts.
Add to that that most would not achieve “happiness” having ran from the problem, while those they know and love are still dealing with and fighting for basic equality issues back home.Then what is the answer? Go on some protest and get arrested while the police state continues to grow? Keep voting for monsters like Hillary Clinton who are destroying this country? There is no societal answer to this problem, my friend. Economically, geopolitically, and culturally, the Western world has passed the point of salvation at least 15-20 years ago, as I have explained in excruciating detail on this blog and the CJ Blog. Fighting to turn it all around at this point is just going to piss you off.
when Joelsuf’s post complained about those who DO stand up for themselves, it stuck a nerveExactly. You're upset, and when you get upset you're irrational, since higher brain functions shut down during anger or frustration. It happens all the time on the internet. Sadly.
I feel like something of a bitch whenever I tap out though, that doesn’t necessarily bring “happiness.”Your blind spot is spending your life fighting a battle that you've already lost won't make you happy either. But hey, keep trying to save the world while you burn with frustration. I'll be over here focusing on my own life and the lives of my loved ones while being happy.
BlindIo 2016-07-08 14:10:53
Reminder that environment matters, and that sufficient knowledge is required to fix problems without any obvious causes. Also that none of us chose to be born into a socialist utopia. Might as well blame a lion for being born in a zoo.
Rod 2016-07-08 14:20:17
Black dragon: "It costs about $3k-4k, at most, to move to Africa from America. How long does take to save up $3k? Even for a low income person? 2 years? 3? Please explain to me exactly why this is unattainable for black person but perfectly attainable for a white person. I can’t wait for your non-racist answer." This is just a small piece of the logistical part of uprooting your life in America and permanently relocating to Africa. Many people would not find happiness moving away from their lives, their friends, their family, and starting over on another continent that is supposedly more black friendly, but that anyone with a mild education knows is still riddled with all kinds of its own problems. Running isn't always the path to happiness, THAT'S what makes this a silly and unobtainable suggestion. Your final sentence speaks to YOU, not me. Black dragon: "Then what is the answer? Go on some protest and get arrested while the police state continues to grow? Keep voting for monsters like Hillary Clinton who are destroying this country? There is no societal answer to this problem, my friend. " If this isn't rhetorical, I believe investing in low income early education starting at something like a 2-year old preschool, instead of worthless stuff like affirmative action, would cut the race problem quite significantly within one generation. That's the "what," not the "how." Trickling down is needed across the board in one way or another for this to happen. Trickling down money was promised in exchange for lower tax rates, but the actual trickling never materialized and the margins only grew worse (another part of why we're now where we're at). It would be amazing if those that owned the bulk of the wealth stepped up and organized their own ways of making the world a better place for all, but that's a pipe dream. Black dragon: "Your blind spot is spending your life fighting a battle that you’ve already lost won’t make you happy either." It depends, no? If a person's happiness is rooted in the struggles of accomplishment then one can be both fighting and happy about it simultaneously. Again, emotions are complex, rarely linear. If your goal is PEACEFUL happiness, your only option is to willfully put on blinders, and then somehow forget that they're on. Which is what most people do for most things in life. Perhaps I'll have to submit to that at some point. Again, I didn't choose to fight though, I eliminated. But again, unless I put on blinders, the pandora's box is opened, I'm aware of and empathetic to the black woman's experience on this earth in 2016, and it doesn't sit right. It would take elimination AND blinders. Black dragon: "Exactly. You’re upset, and when you get upset you’re irrational, since higher brain functions shut down during anger or frustration. It happens all the time on the internet. Sadly." I'm not being irrational, there's a solid strain of logic behind everything I say. This is what's called an Ad Hom, where the points aren't addressed and rather the person is attacked. This is pointless to any kind of worthwhile discussion. I have only brought up ideas, I have not attacked any people in any manner similar to what you just wrote.
Blackdragon 2016-07-08 14:37:05
This is just a piece of the logistical part of what you’re saying man. Many people would not find happiness moving away from their lives, their friends, their family, and starting over on another continent that is supposedly more black friendly, but that anyone with a mild education knows is still riddled with all kinds of its own problems. Running isn’t always the path to happiness, THAT’S what makes this a silly and unobtainable suggestion. Your final sentence speaks to YOU, not me.That entire paragraph is meaningless and you didn't answer my question. Therefore this will be my last response to you here.
I believe investing in low income early education starting at something like a 2-year old preschool, instead of worthless stuff like affirmative action, would cut the race problem quite significantly within one generation. That’s the “what,” not the “how.”Exactly, because you have no how. All you have are pie-in-the-sky desires instead of real world solutions. As opposed to my solutions, which are very specific and proven to work. (They just work on a individual scale instead of a societal one.)
If a person’s happiness is rooted in the struggles of accomplishment then one can be both fighting and happy about it simultaneously.But you aren't happy. You just admitted this several times above. I suggest you go back and re-read your own comments.
This is what’s called an Ad Hom, where the points aren’t addressed and rather the person is attacked.Stating that you're upset is not an attack nor is it a personal insult. It's a statement of fact directly related to the conversation at hand. When you are upset, higher brain functions shut down, causing you to say things that may not make a lot of sense. (Read the definition of a "Jekyll" here.) This is not an ad homimen attack, since it applies to me as well when I get upset (it's just that I don't get upset very often, because I'm good at accomplishing my goal of long-term consistent happiness, something you clearly don't want).
there’s a solid strain of logic behind everything I sayLike implying that a black American can't move to Africa but a white American easily can? (Then implying that I'm a racist when I disagree with that?) Yeah. Your logic is overwhelming. Read again what I said about what happens when you get upset. Have a nice day being upset at a world you can't change. I'll be over here being happy.
Rod 2016-07-08 15:01:05
Blacdragon: "That entire paragraph is meaningless and you didn’t answer my question. Therefore this will be my last response to you here." I'll try to clarify what I was meaning and be more specific. Your solution to the typical struggling black American is to "move to Africa." You say it'll only take 4k and that will only take 3 years to save for. What about the rest of the logistics?? Let's look at a typical inner city black woman. 30 years old. 2 kids. Product of a poor education. Maybe has a high school degree. Worked minimum wage or slightly higher jobs her whole life. - This woman saves 4k in 3 years. - that's enough for the plane tickets and luggage and maybe 1-2k in her pocket. - Where does she stay? - Where does she work? - What business does she start with 1-2k in Africa with her level of education and minimum wage skillset? Or should she have learned a new skillset in America first before she moved? - Will the conditions she's able to live on in Africa be any better than where she's at in America? - Where do her kids go to school? - What will the school conditions be with her level of money and income potential? - How will she see family face to face again? Does that become a distant dream? There's so much more to "move to Africa" than "save 4k in 3 years." I did gloss over the remaining logistics, there's probably a lot more to it than the above tbh. Hope that helps clarify what I was meaning. Blacdragon: "Like implying that a black American can’t move to Africa but a white American easily can?" I never implied this in any way shape or form, you're pulling this from a smelly place. I think the idea of moving across the world is an extreme and emotionally TOUGH problem-solving solution for most ANYONE.
Joelsuf 2016-07-08 21:44:04
I have explained in excruciating detail on this blog and the CJ Blog. Fighting to turn it all around at this point is just going to piss you off.I just had this epiphany on my birthday last week and am now taking measures to remove anyone and everyone who has that Save The World mentality. Its a big waste of energy. EVEN IF artillery and explosives are involved, there is nothing that just one citizen, or even a group of citizens can do to change things on a grand scale. Paradoxically, if everyone just focused on themselves and weren't so damn collective things really would ACTUALLY improve. We would have very little of these problems that Rod is so obsessed about. And the sad part is that collective thinking isn't even organic, its something that is systematically pounded into our heads since infancy. Its sad really.
Rod 2016-07-09 08:41:20
@Joelsuf Things improve all the time. Gay people fought hard for social acceptance for years, and their collective lives improve every year. African Americans have been fighting for social equality for centuries and their collective lives improve every year. Tranny's are the ones doing the fighting now, and they're gaining more rights. When you fight, you gain for yourself and your collective community. Things do, highly measurably, ACTUALLY improve for people. Just ask a 60 year old gay man about life now vs life in the 80s. It was a hard-fought improvement in life that produced actual measurable identifiable life-changing results. "Collective thinking" naturally happens when you're part of a minority community group happens among members who feel they belong to ANY community actually, its 100% human nature, has nothing to do with "pounded in our heads. Many problems are worth fighting for. We're in as free a society as we are BECAUSE of people stepped up and fought to make things better for themselves and their kind. Everything you have right now is the result of people fighting for it at one point or another in the past. If you want to try to come up with a slander (IE the "save the world" types) to write all this off, and then make false claims like "nothing is accomplished," you have put BLINDERS on. That's what I wrote about above. . . to live in the way that's being proposed, you have to willingly put on blinders. "Nothing can be done" is psychological blinder mechanism. If you think nothing can be done, then you can feel perfectly fine doing nothing. But the reality is America is still a shit-show for many who are simply born into the short end of the stick, and they ABSOLUTELY should fight. I still can't get over the fact that Blackdragon went to "move to Africa" btw. There's a word for that sentiment, that starts with the letter "R." THAT'S who's on this blog, the "move to Africa if you don't like it here exactly as it is, black people" crowd? VERY very very telling.
Rod 2016-07-09 09:13:58
Please excuse my grammar and please don't stoop to using that to dodge the actual ideas I presented. I ran out of editing time.
Jack Outside the Box 2016-07-09 12:59:29
Political correctness detected! Employing red pill countermeasures now:
The thing is, there is still a lot of systematic social inequality in the world,There is no such thing as "systematic" anything. These are just fictions which we use in order to make verbal conversations easier to comprehend. But these are poetic metaphors. There is no such thing as any number higher than "one" for example. There is just a bunch of "ones." We invented the other numbers to make it easier, but it's all an illusion. Justice can only be found on the individual scale, because the human individual is the only thing that's real. Collective humanity, or the black community, are abstract fictions which have no existence or rights, nor should they. If a specific individual has been wronged by another specific individual, then that specific individual should fight against the one who wrong him. Same thing when we're talking about a group of individuals against another group of individuals. But whatever you do, you can't "collectivize" anything, like "systemic oppression," because if you do, individual justice is lost and you end up blaming innocent people for the crimes of the guilty in a manner reminiscent of a secular version of "original sin."
But, even as I understand and empathize, I dated a black girl for about a year, and over time her constant pointing out of all the subtile systematic inequality she experienced from a negative place really got to me.Are you sure she didn't suffer from paranoid schizophrenia? Confirmation bias? False self-deprecating interpretations of events foisted upon her by black leaders whose professional victimhood is their only marketable job skill?
For example she’d send two resumes to the exact same place a week or so apart, one with her real name, and one with a “white” name, EVERYTHING ELSE THE SAME, and the white name one would get the response, multiple times over.I'm sure other places are the opposite - the exotic name will get picked over the domestic name. Every culture has its own preferences. In Africa, I'm sure my name would be disadvantaged. This is just human nature based on cultural self-protection. In any case, private companies have a right to have their own preferences in a free country. And like I said, there are many companies where I'm sure the exotic name would receive preference (i.e. Whole Foods). This proves nothing, other than her having a disempowered interpretation of things.
This is just one example of where “black lives are valued less than white” comes from.The idea that "black lives are valued less than white" because of a name preference is absurd! The company doesn't value black human lives any less just because of its preference for American names! Again, insane and disempowering interpretation! Hey, if she's that concerned, maybe she should legally change her name! Solved!
its not “victim mentality”Yes it is!
any more than George Washington was playing victim to Britain.HAHAHA!!! So what legal rights do white people have that blacks do not? Because I can tell you some legal rights that blacks have that whites do not, such as affirmative action laws violating the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment!
(hence, “white privilege” in the fact that I can simply ignore if I want to, where a black woman cannot, its always in her face).Ignoring paranoid schizophrenic delusions and disempowering interpretations of events is not "white privilege." It's sanity. White privilege is a myth. Green privilege on the other hand....
she’s essentially trapped in a world of negativity stacked against her,A world of negativity and disempowerment in her own fucked up head!
and thus its considerably harder for her to see it as an “personal attitude adjustment” when systematically she and all her peers face inescapable regular obvious discrimination and lower levels of opportunity.So are you suggesting that people have a human right to be hired against the will of the person doing the hiring? Because that doesn't sound like human rights to me. That sounds like tyranny and the destruction of the freedom of choice of property owners!
Its an easy and effortless answer for a white guy to give though.STOP USING OUR WHITENESS AS A WEAPON AGAINST US! THAT IS RACIST! It may be an easy and effortless answer for a rich guy to give, but race has nothing to do with it!
I guess after dating that black girl and experiencing these things first hand, it bothers me to see how ignorant of their reality so many white people are, like I MYSELF was before this experience.Refusing to buy into someone else's disempowered delusions based on bullshit interpretations doesn't make us ignorant. But even if we were ignorant, so what? Are you implying that we are under some obligation to solve other people's problems for free? Or be other people's unpaid bodyguards? Or unpaid life coaches?
So when Joelsuf’s post complained about those who DO stand up for themselves, it stuck a nerve.He didn't complain about people standing up for themselves. He complained about racist terrorist trash who should be executed with military drones strikes (Black Lives Matter), sexist man hating trash (feminism) and losers in general who precisely refuse to stand up for themselves and choose instead to blame everybody else for their problems.
But again, I get the white guy perspective too,It's not a "white guy" perspective. It's an empowered perspective which many black people share (i.e. Larry Elder, Condoleezza Rice, Whoopi Goldberg, Oprah Winfrey, etc...).
I don’t know the answer man. You have a group with hundreds of years of systematic suppression,No, we don't. These black individuals weren't even alive for hundreds of years. That's scientifically impossible!
who face clear and obvious near-daily discrimination,There's nothing clear or obvious about it.
being told that the oppression does not exist and to STFU and deal with it.Or how about - stop blaming whitey and instead go after racist individuals only. Tribal collectivization is racism because you lump the innocent with the guilty and then accuse all white people of being born with original sin. The beliefs of Black Lives Matter are medieval delusions (pagan in origin)!
They tend to be under-educated thanks to the snowball effects of their long history of being shat upon,There are many successful and rich black people, including black millionaires. Psst, here's a secret - Our president is black!
I don’t know the answer, I just know they’re not exactly out of line for taking the action necessary to bring their issues to light, and hopefully help correct.Really? So....vandalizing white owned businesses, like Walgreens or CVS, is not out of line? Burning down their own neighborhoods, breaking windows, trashing stores owned by innocent people, murdering cops, killing innocent white people and calling it "polar bearing" isn't out of line????? These are the actions of savage animals, not human beings. These specific black individuals who perpetrate such horror deserve to spend the rest of their lives in a cage, or the death penalty (laws permitting). They can't use their blackness as a superior shield for law breaking (that's black supremacy and racism)!
It STARTS with white people though, we started this whole thing,This is white guilt original sin trash! We didn't start anything! We weren't even born yet during the time of slavery! We white people are not responsible for the actions of other white people just because we happen to share the same skin color! Again, everything you believe is racist! Keep your white guilt off this blog and preferably off the entire manosphere! The premise behind your entire thinking is that adults should be held responsible for the actions of other adults and this is what sickens me.Because you think I'm somehow obligated, just because of the way I was born, to solve other people's problems for free! This is socialism! It's tyranny! And it's evil!
and continue to perpetuate it.What other white people continue to perpetuate (if anything) is not something I am obligated to be burdened with. The only actions I'm responsible for are my own!
White people need to step upHAHAHA!!!! White people need to do NOTHING! I don't "need" to "step up" because I've done nothing wrong! I have no original sin! Believing otherwise is third world dictatorship territory!
and take the “personal responsibility” we love to clamor on about,Personal responsibility is an individualistic concept, hence the word "personal." I will take personal responsibility for my individual actions, behaviors, and choice. I will not take personal responsibility for other adults (white or otherwise) because that violates my individual rights, including my right to the pursuit of individual happiness!
for that fact that as a whole white people are still highly racistThere is no such thing as "white people as a whole." These are fictional social constructs! Explain how I'm responsible for the actions of other adults, just because those other adults are white? Explain why I should be punished for other white people's racism???
and responsible for an onslaught of racism and disadvantage in the typical black person’s life on a weekly basis.I am not responsible for any racism or onslaught of any disadvantage to anyone! Get that straight and check your white guilt!
Of COURSE they’re going to react.By committing acts of terrorism against innocent white people? Such "of course" reactions deserve imprisonment, criminal charges, and the death penalty from our legal system!
I believe investing in low income early education starting at something like a 2-year old preschool,This is child abuse!
It would be amazing if those that owned the bulk of the wealth stepped up and organized their own ways of making the world a better place for all, but that’s a pipe dream.Rich people are not your monkey!
If your goal is PEACEFUL happiness, your only option is to willfully put on blinders,I experience a good amount of happiness (more than the average person) and I don't see myself as having blinders! Even if everything you're saying were true (which it's not), I would look at it and still be happy because the suffering of other people does not lessen my right to be happy. Or do you believe that I have no right to be happy if even one homeless person is starving??? Does other people's sadness take away my happiness unless I have blinders? If so, you're saying I don't deserve happiness unless we live in a perfect utopia! That's a sick belief!
and it doesn’t sit right.That is your chosen reaction.
It would take elimination AND blinders.Then I feel sorry for you!
I’m not being irrational, there’s a solid strain of logic behind everything I say.Yeah, it's called "collectivism" and "original sin." You should probably reject that "solid strain of logic."
Let’s look at a typical inner city black woman. 30 years old. 2 kids. Product of a poor education. Maybe has a high school degree. Worked minimum wage or slightly higher jobs her whole life.Why did she choose to have kids if she can't afford them?
“Collective thinking” naturally happens when you’re part of a minority community group happens among members who feel they belong to ANY community actually, its 100% human nature, has nothing to do with “pounded in our heads.The problem with collective thinking is that it causes you to lump the innocent with the guilty and the oppressed with the lazy without any wisdom or discernment! Collective thinking leads to genocide and concentration camps, just ask any racist (collectivist)!
If you think nothing can be done, then you can feel perfectly fine doing nothing.I think many things can be done. But I still feel perfectly fine doing nothing, because I'm not legally or morally obligated to answer for crimes that I didn't commit or change other people's conditions which I did not cause. Now, this doesn't mean I'm not a part of any movements or that I actually am doing nothing. What it means is that I feel comfortable doing nothing (even if I choose to do something from a position of strength) because I'm not guilty of anything!
But the reality is America is still a shit-show for many who are simply born into the short end of the stick, and they ABSOLUTELY should fight.They should not fight against innocent people or lump the innocent with the guilty. Fuck this "collective responsibility" and "original sin" garbage!
I still can’t get over the fact that Blackdragon went to “move to Africa” btw. There’s a word for that sentiment, that starts with the letter “R.”Rational? Reasonable? Responsible?
THAT’S who’s on this blog, the “move to Africa if you don’t like it here exactly as it is, black people” crowd? VERY very very telling.How about the "stop blaming innocent people for the crimes of the guilty and trying to force obligations on people not responsible for bad things" crowd! Is that better?
Rod 2016-07-09 13:33:10
Can you tell me how to format quotes? If so, I will be happy to answer this in as much detail later today or tomorrow.
Joelsuf 2016-07-09 16:32:07
It was just a matter of time before Jack came around to put this deluded SJW on blast lol. I actually feel bad for SJWs like Rod (and even Manosphere SJWs like Roosh) who have been suckered into the groupthink mentality. In the end, my original argument stands: Collective reasoning is like the processed fast food of morals. It isn't natural, it is VERY stimulating, and you can even survive off of it. But in the long run it will lead to health problems, in this case, mental health problems. Just look at what Omar Mateen did. If he wasn't brainwashed by Islam (or any western religion really) he would have been partying with all the people he shot at Pulse instead of shooting them. Collective action and reasoning puts an OBSCENE amount of pressure on an individual to make sure they are doing right by the group first, and themselves last. This is why it is not natural. It takes away our natural Fight vs Flight instinct and instead replaces it with Fight AND Flight, which leads to exactly what Jack interpreted my earlier comment was:
He complained about racist terrorist trash who should be executed with military drones strikes (Black Lives Matter), sexist man hating trash (feminism) and losers in general who precisely refuse to stand up for themselves and choose instead to blame everybody else for their problems.Organizations that rely on Groupthink and Utopianism WANT this. They WANT you to blame people who are not of your race for your race being "oppressed" (This is how most black supremacist groups like Black Lives Matter get paid). They WANT chicks to blame all men for having no one but old, belligerent, friendless weirdos hitting on you (this is how major SJW organizations like Buzzfeed get paid). They WANT you to blame women's rights for your lack of success with women (this is how MOST manosphere Organizations get paid). And the $50000 question: Do these organizations REALLY care about you? $100000 answer: Nope. BIG. OL. NOPE. They will toss you away like last week's news the moment you disagree with them or question their views, actions or discourse. So to sir Rod, I hope there comes a day where you realize you are giving your power away to the collective mindset. Stop giving your mental power away to organizations who want you to be their disposable soldier.
Joelsuf 2016-07-09 16:41:08
Justice can only be found on the individual scale, because the human individual is the only thing that’s realI'd argue that it can't even be found on an individual scale, as individuals have their own codes and interpretations of Justice. I tend to agree with Nietzsche on this, when he says that justice is something we create out of protection for ourselves and others (or something like that, I only skimmed through The Genealogy of Morals). That's why the concept of justice doesn't work on a grand scale, because different groups have different concepts of justice and different individuals in those groups ALSO have their own concepts of justice. It really annoys me when people scream about "justice" nowadays, to me it just means "agree with me or DIEEEEEEEEE!!!!" lol
Jack Outside the Box 2016-07-10 04:54:45
Any group who is interested in empowering their own race/gender IMO is a hate group. Its just that SJWs are disguising this…for now.No dude. They're not disguising it. They're not disguising it AT ALL!
I’d argue that it can’t even be found on an individual scale,Yes I know, because you're a self-admitted anarchist and nihilist, which is insane, but let's not go there again.
as individuals have their own codes and interpretations of Justice.Irrelevant. Objectively speaking, justice is balance. An eye for an eye is the perfect epitome of justice. But the individual person who wronged you is the one who deserves punishment, not the innocent people whom that individual may superficially look like or associate with. This is my beef with collective communitarianism (which tradcons support as well). It can only be implemented at the expense of individual human rights. It comes from ancient paganism and their crude ideas of balance. In ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia the law stated, "if a man kills another man's son, so shall his son be killed." That is also the current collective philosophy of inner city gang members - you kill my girlfriend, I kill yours. But it's based on metaphorical collective abstractions based on incidental individualistic associations which equate the innocent with the guilty. Like I said, if you're a tribalist (which includes racist), you lump the innocent with the guilty (by association) and the oppressed with the lazy (by association), so individual justice is lost. Black Lives Matter are the new ancient pagans, as are feminists, social justice warriors, and drug dealing inner city thugs!
I tend to agree with Nietzsche on this,I'm so shocked.
Jack Outside the Box 2016-07-10 05:02:39
Can you tell me how to format quotes?Oh for fuck sake! It's on your fucking screen! Just copy the comment into the comment box, highlight it, and click the quotation mark on top of the comment box!
If so, I will be happy to answer this in as much detail later today or tomorrow.Feel free. Just so you know though, I eat SJWs for breakfast. Well, actually I fight against them in court for a pretty penny, but you get the idea!
Rod 2016-07-10 10:45:44
Thanks Jack. Its going to be another few days before I can answer in any depth. . . work to get wrapped today before a cross country trip for business this week.
Joelsuf 2016-07-10 11:14:58
No dude. They’re not disguising it. They’re not disguising it AT ALL!What I mean by "disguising" is that their materials haven't caused lawmakers to begin discriminating against those who aren't SJWs yet. Currently, SJWs discriminate against those who don't agree with them but they are still a fringe group. When I get sent to an internment camp or something for being a white man (which may happen sometime in the 2020s) then it can be said that SJWs aren't disguising their hatred. And its like I said, I'm hoping that they understand the secondary effects of what they are purporting and alter their worldviews. There is something of value to take away from everything.
you’re a self-admitted anarchist and nihilist, which is insane, but let’s not go there again.Is there anything really bad in believing in no government and no meaning? George Carlin had the same beliefs but people loved him. I'll never understand why anarchists and nihilists are demonized. Its not like I tell people irl that they are wrong for not being anarchists and nihilists. Being able to accept that government steals from us and that there is no such thing as free will (but STILL being productive in spite of it) is not an easy thing to do. People need government, meaning etc. in their lives cuz they think it will make it easier. I'm not better or worse than anyone because of my beliefs. But this blog is a place where I can announce these beliefs comfortably without others demonizing them.
Jack Outside the Box 2016-07-10 12:10:59
Is there anything really bad in believing in no government and no meaning?Yes! Yes there is!
George Carlin had the same beliefs but people loved him.Please don't equate me with "people."
I’ll never understand why anarchists and nihilists are demonized.I'm sure you won't.
Being able to accept that government steals from usI do accept that the current government steals from us. But I don't think it has to be that way.
and that there is no such thing as free willNow this is just some psychotic horseshit here!
People need government, meaning etc. in their lives cuz they think it will make it easier.I'm not talking about what people "need."
I’m not better or worse than anyone because of my beliefs.Completely false! It is a person's beliefs and personality which precisely make them better or worse than other people. In fact, your beliefs, ideologies, and behaviors are the best criteria for deciding whether you are a good person or a bad one. For example, every Muslim is morally inferior to me. Rebuttal?
But this blog is a place where I can announce these beliefs comfortably without others demonizing them.Wrong again! Blackdragon is very committed to free speech. As long as that is true, you are the least safe and the most at risk here for ridicule and demonization (barring actual ad-hominem attacks, as per his rules). If you want to know where you can express your beliefs "comfortably" without being demonized or "triggered" try Tumblr, or some fascist SJW site.
Jack Outside the Box 2016-07-11 00:03:57
Unless you want to respond, I'll leave the topic of anarchism and nihilism with these final words:
I’ll never understand why anarchists and nihilists are demonized.First, as an anarchist, you think that taking a gun and putting a bullet in my head should be legal! I take that personally. It sort of sticks in my gut! I've seen all three Purge movies dude. I don't want to live in that kind of world. You think my girlfriend getting gang raped should be legal! As someone who believes in no government, you believe there should be no legal protection against human rights violations! Second, as a nihilist, you don't believe in the existence of human rights. If all life is meaningless, than human rights are a myth and a joke! So goodbye free speech! Goodbye all freedom! Hello chaotic and murderous jungle environment! Nihilists and anarchists don't believe in fighting for the dignity of the human individual or safeguarding any human rights which I hold precious! They believe that the universe is just meaningless filth, which means that humans are just worthless and meaningless filth! Your boyfriend George Carlin believed that all human rights and civil liberties are a myth! Again, everything that I, as a libertarian, hold precious, you laugh at as a funny joke, including my human right to not get a bullet to the head! Human worth and human dignity is a joke to you, as an anarchist and a nihilist! This offends me to my very core and, if adopted by a majority of people, would abolish the very concept of "rights" "human worth" and "dignity." For this reason alone, you anarchists and nihilists deserve all the demonization and ridicule possible from freedom lovers everywhere! Any questions?
Gil Galad 2016-07-11 11:25:38
I’ll leave the topic of anarchism and nihilism with these final wordsJack, every time you comment about the meaning of life and so forth I shake my head, because your disagreement with "absurdists" comes more from a misunderstanding than from an actual difference of views. You get pissed too easily and you already strongly dislike me so my chances of convincing you are slim, but I'll give it a try: 1° This is the most important point, and if it isn't settled the rest is useless: do you or do you not accept, in principle, that there may be truths that are extremely bad and that still are, regardless of how much we hate them ? I'm often under the impression that you think unbelievers take "pleasure" in their convictions. Most of them don't: they really wish they were wrong (and now I'm gonna be accused of being condescending, again, sigh), but if I see a buffalo being killed by hyenas through bites to the testicles, I'm not gonna deny it just because it's too horrible. Time and time again, I see you repeating the general pattern: "Ideology X can't possibly be true, because if it is, there would be horrible consequences". Do you or do you not accept that truth is not dependent on whether it would save us or destroy us ? I you don't, don't bother reading the rest: our views would be irreconcilable. 2° You seem to think that belief is a choice, and that therefore people are good or evil based on what they believe. The most basic introspection shows that belief and doubt are things that happen to a person, not things that they "do". For example, when I was a big pussy approval-seeking beta but already nonfeminist, I would tell feminists that "I really tried to believe your premises but I just couldn't, the logic just didn't work out, there are too many contradictions in gender constructivism etc, so I just couldn't reach the state of belief". It really is the same with statements about the meaning of life: spiritual belief is a set of propositions about the world, and as such, an individual can't just "choose" the yes or no ideological stance: he examines the available information, and using his mental faculties as best as possible, he sees where the logic leads. Of course this is highly fallible, but that's my point: if he's wrong, this is an honest mistake, not necessarily the work of an emotional, biased person who just wants to reach a specific conclusion. Have you ever known a person who seemed nice but "couldn't shake the feeling that there's something wrong with them" ? That's what doubt is, and you can't just wish it away: a fact, a detail, something that doesn't add up, prevents you from "buying it". Same with positions closer to certitude. 3° I take it now from where I left in (1°). If you accepted that horrible truths are not impossible, then you accept that when it comes to the meaning of life, any 'investigation' on the issue would require the person to disregard the end result and be ready for the possibility of an unwanted conclusion. (I will repeat here that I have no certitudes and that I don't exclude the possibility of an external purpose to us, though it'll have its own "where does it come from" unending questions. An opportunity to also repeat that you're not making sense when you call your position of certitude reasonable, and my position of doubt "fanatic".) Maybe we "need" a purpose, maybe we'd all be fucked if there isn't one, but it doesn't causally follow that there is one ! 4° In all debates about religion, there's always the religious guy saying "if there is no hell, how can you be a good person ? why do you even get up in the morning ?" And then there's the nonreligious guy replying "Yep, look at all those infidel countries. It's a Far West in there. They are lagging behind on all fronts: economical, technological, moral, everywhere, and it's all because they abandoned God. Oh wait, they aren't, it's actually the opposite. Guess you're wrong." Look Jack, every social species on earth is wired to...be a social species. For a society to function, whether it is bees, chimps or humans, the genes have to have done their job of making "anarchy" statistically highly improbable. An individual who no longer thinks he has cosmic parents is still gonna want to eat, drink, fuck, talk, and love, and he's still gonna dislike the sight of another person suffering and will try to change that if it doesn't cost him much. Not because there is a "because" but because that's what humans are. Your apprehensions are unfounded. You yourself are the best proof that they are: your worrying about human rights is an example of how humans won't let go of some universal rules of conduct. All the horrors done by humans have been done both in religious cultures and in nonreligious and anti-religious cultures, and it is ideas of how to make the world better, not ideas of how the world is, that usually create those horrors. There are many peaceful cultures with very bleak mythology or worldview, and it doesn't necessarily correlate with violence, anarchy, disregard for human life/dignity, etc. Most people who hate on absurdism misunderstand it because they frame it in non-absurdist terms. The nonbeliever will say "lack of meaning means that a stone is a stone, and a man is a man, and there is a chain of causes that led to their existence, and I don't think there is any certitude that there is another "man" or mind further down the chain, whose will caused the rest. Especially that if there is a mind and a will that caused us, then we're back to square one since that mind will need a cause for itself, a god's god. Maybe there is one, but how is that any more interesting than square one ?" But the believer will express it in a much more twisted, pejorative way, and always in the negative: "unbelievers think there is no purpose, and you have no value, etc". He'll think in terms of removal while it's really a matter of being. Guess what, back in prehistoric times, the tribes that happened to have no guarding spirits and no Declaration of Human Rights still looked after their fellow humans (or sometimes went at war with them, as if that was different from today), not because there was a big abstraction in the sky about human inalienable rights, but because that's what humans do. What's your response to this simple fact, Jack: that the Declaration of Human Rights occurred after its contents were in the mind of a human, and that therefore, moral principles existed before any piece of paper or verbalized rule that we may defend today ? There first is the primitive state that just is, and that already can take care of itself morally without the need of being told fairy tales about an external meaning, and then there are the people who write the rules based on already existing moral urges. What exactly does it mean that "shooting someone shouldn't be legal", as far as facts are concerned ? It just means that humans don't like that, and agree that there must be a written rule that forbids murder. This will remain true whether or not you build mental constructs like "life's value", "the right to live", etc: verbalization only consecrates a state of being, which is that people don't like to be shot. A "right" is the acknowledgement of the fact that people will resist when you try to take certain things from them. How is there any difference between "I won't kill you because you have an inalienable right to live" and "I won't kill you because I experience moral discomfort at the idea of killing you ?" In both cases, a person angry enough or deranged enough to kill will kill regardless of whether there is the abstraction, the "right", the "law", etc. Laws don't change human nature, they simply clarify how a society wishes to function and make the pressure and risk of retaliation more palpable. When I say that rights are a social construct, I'm not saying you have no value to me, I'm just saying that when I refrain from killing you, I'm acknowledging my bio/psychological tendency to stay away from murder, and of course my weariness of social retaliation in the form of arrest and prison time; but I'm not reifying an abstraction called "life's value" or a "right". In the facts, there is no difference and nothing has been removed; it's your insistence on giving inherent existence to mental constructs that makes it look like I removed something and that somehow I respect your life less than a believer would.
Joelsuf 2016-07-11 11:32:23
If you want to know where you can express your beliefs “comfortably” without being demonized or “triggered” try Tumblr, or some fascist SJW site.I meant places where I can express my beliefs without being insta-banned. That's what I meant. I've been banned from a good amount of message boards, blogs etc (an equal amount of them being proponents of the manosphere as SJWs) just for mentioning nihilism and anarchism. I'm not as obsessed with these concepts as you think I am, they just allow me to cope better. They make sense to me and provide comfort, just like you being libertarian provides comfort to you.
If all life is meaningless, than human rights are a myth and a joke! So goodbye free speech! Goodbye all freedom! Hello chaotic and murderous jungle environment!Do we not have that now? I certainly don't feel free in this nation. I run the risk of getting arrested because I have made the decision to drive without paying auto insurance. Because I decide not to give corporatists (as well as the government) money, this makes me a criminal (state of Florida suspends your license if you don't have auto insurance). I don't see the sense in that. I'd like to know what your solution is. I will admit that my views are very utopian and far fetched, but I have lost faith in any other way. I've seen too much corruption and agenda around me. Lastly I'm not trying to save the world, this is just something fun for me to talk about really. You seem really passionate. What are you doing to improve things around you?
Gil Galad 2016-07-11 12:33:30
Instead, the weak should be told to become strong. If they can’t, then evolution will separate the wheat from the chaff and our species will evolve into something beautiful. [...] The harsh fact of life that you haven’t learned yet is that someone always has to lose in order for there to be any happiness at all!@Jack: And this is what you said to Marie on the Men Dating Different Women article, reflecting an outdated conception of evolution that has been obsolete for a century. I refrained from reacting to it because you were arguing the same point that I was - against PC, against the denial of innate perceptions of beauty, etc -, and it would have overcomplicated the comment thread. But the truth is that in there, you were being a social darwinist, no less. (NB: social darwinism isn't the belief in darwinism, which is a largely confirmed mechanism for how biological change occurs: it is a belief that that same mechanism should be used in the human society and that it is "good because it's natural") I was only saying that visual discrimination was a harsh fact of the sexual reality of humans, and that it couldn't be blamed on men, but you seem to actually think that this is good and that it will make our species "evolve". You see the seeds of inhumanity and totalitarism everywhere in what your contradictors say, but you don't realize that those seeds are also obvious in what you say: let the weak die and the strong survive, and we shall have a better man - which is hilarious, because you're now joining the Nietzche you were laughing at earlier when Joelsuf mentioned him, and the übermensch. How exactly are you, up there on your morality soap box, any better (or even equal for that matter), to us ? You're scared shitless that people like us are gonna "get us back into the jungle", and yet we're constantly arguing with you about...that's right, MORAL issues ! Like I said in the previous comment, it isn't your metaphysical beliefs that guard you against becoming immoral. Immorality is a statistic: you, Jack, if you'd had less lucky genes and a less lucky upbringing, could have been a serial killer. So could I. But we're not, an we're here, both very concerned about moral issues on which we have different opinions...and you still think we needed a dawn of time myth about the purpose of life in order to do so ?! Two-year old babies and even infant orangutans become upset when they see someone upset, and they try to comfort him/her. They don't need no purpose ! The "value of life" is implicit in the wirings of their brain, not an external cosmic shenanigan !
Gil Galad 2016-07-12 04:01:18
and that there is no such thing as free will Now this is just some psychotic horseshit here!Final comment for Jack: do you ever respond to this kind of statement in ways other than "that's crazy", "that's psychotic", "that can't be true because else we'd be screwed" ? And have you ever calmly considered the arguments against the existence or coherence of "free will" ? You keep asking for rebuttals, I'll ask you for a rebuttal to this: You "chose" to get up this morning. Why did you do that ? Because you have a mission, or because you like your job, or because it sucks to stay in bed all day, or whatever; either way, something about leaving bed was better than staying in it. In other words, a chain of causes led you to do that. There is no scenario whatsoever in which your actions aren't the result of 1°your software + 2° what happened to you from the womb to today. Like I said earlier, what you do (and not just what you believe) happens to you, and the best proof is honest introspection. Really, try it: observe yourself while in the process of making a decision, you'll see there's nothing "free" about it. On the other hand, if you prove that some human actions are "uncaused", there still is no free will, because uncaused means gratuitous and random, and you still can't claim it as "free volition". As it has been famously pointed out "either our actions are determined, and we are not responsible for them, or our actions are indetermined, and we are not responsible for them". Go on, refute this. Or else, re-define free will (I can help with that: check "compatibilism" on wikipedia). Responsibility is a useful concept and for now we can't just give up on it, so I don't advocate removing it, but ultimately it is completely incoherent. What exactly does it mean that "the murderer was not insane, therefore he is responsible for the murder" ? All it means is that we are more likely to retaliate against wrongdoers who are capable of understanding retaliation. Prisons and penalties are about 1° removing the wrongdoer from society to make him harmless to it, 2° deterring him from doing the deed again, 3° deterring everyone else. We need the concept of responsibility because most people, most victims, emotionally need the idea that wrongdoers are "bad". The truth is that even the worst "sane" criminal is simply the result of his upbringing. It isn't "he didn't grow out of his upbringing, so he's responsible", it's "he couldn't grow out of it", and it isn't "no, he didn't even try", it's "he couldn't grow out of the instinct not to try", etc. I don't (within possible) hate feminists, because most of them are much more "mistaken", "delusional", than "evil". It applies to any degree of evil, and most evil is the result of faulty thinking + failure to prevent emotion from clouding judgement. Seriously, you can apply it to Hitler or to a random dude who kinda pissed you off the other day, it works. What you fail to see is that a world where people don't believe in free will would be nearly indistinguishable from a world where they do. It wouldn't be a jungle, except to the same extent that today's world is one (and I'd argue: somewhat less so). People would still say "stop blaming others, take some responsibility for your actions", but responsibility here simply means that your current self is perfectible and that you're capable of achieving that on your own. Criminals would still go to jail, but there would be less unfettered hate and the justice system wouldn't be plagued by false dichotomies like "responsible/not responsible", and would rely more pragmatically on prison sentences as a deterrent, or as removal from society, or even - we can't just ignore human nature - as a calculated concession to the victim's desire for vengeance (even though it will probably remain implicit). Is this psychotic because it's incorrect, or is it psychotic because it would have bad conbsequences (nope, no worse than the traditional belief in free will, and probably less) ? I'll be waiting.
Jack Outside the Box 2016-07-12 06:06:11
I’ve been banned from a good amount of message boards, blogs etc (an equal amount of them being proponents of the manosphere as SJWs) just for mentioning nihilism and anarchism.Good. If I had a blog, or were in control of this one, I'd ban you as well for the same reason. This is private property after all. But BD is more lax than I am, which is his choice.
I’m not as obsessed with these concepts as you think I am, they just allow me to cope better.You keep bringing them up, even after BD said that he will delete comments about nihilism, determinism, and free will! You don't care! You keep talking about this garbage! I was trying to make a point about collectivism vs. individualism because Rod was doing his racist white guilt SJW thing. I pointed out that there is no justice outside the individual sphere, because collective tribalism leads to guilt by association and racism, sexism, and heterophobia, which is the problem with sex-negative feminists. But you then just had to jump in and declare that, even on an individual scale, justice can't be found, thus, once again, implying the whole anarchy and nihilism thing, in violation of BD's express desire for everyone here to shut the fuck up about determinism, nihilism, and free will! What I said to Rod was relevant, because political correctness is a threat to sex-positivism and the alpha 2.0 lifestyle, but you just had to take it a step further and spread your "justice and truth are myths" garbage!
Do we not have that now?No we don't have that now. Ever watch the Purge?
I certainly don’t feel free in this nation.Fuck your feelings! You're not as free as a libertarian would like you to be, but this is the freest country in the world.
I run the risk of getting arrested because I have made the decision to drive without paying auto insurance.As a libertarian, I do not condone laws which require the purchasing of car insurance, or laws which require the purchasing of anything. I do not even condone laws which require a driver's license - something which shouldn't exist in a free society - in order to drive. As old people who lived in the 1920s used to say, "The only thing we needed back then to drive a car was know-how." I sincerely believe that the DMV should be abolished and everyone should drive just because they want to. And if someone gets killed by a car or hurt, or if property is damaged as a result of a bad driver, than that bad driver should be arrested, charged with the appropriate crime, and given the appropriate punishment, up to and including execution. With that being said, I do not condone breaking the law just because you don't agree with it. Your decision to commit a crime by driving without car insurance is a stupid one.
Because I decide not to give corporatists (as well as the government) money, this makes me a criminal (state of Florida suspends your license if you don’t have auto insurance).My state legally requires you to purchase car insurance before driving a car as well. Driving without car insurance is a crime here. Most states have laws requiring at least one-way auto liability coverage. It's not like you're alone. I agree that this is wrong and libertarians should work to repeal these laws, but until they do, criminals, such as yourself, should be arrested and punished.
I don’t see the sense in that. I’d like to know what your solution is.Work to repeal these bullshit laws!
Lastly I’m not trying to save the world, this is just something fun for me to talk about reallyBut you can't stop talking about it and keep implicitly or explicitly bringing it up, even after BD said he's prohibiting discussions of free will/nihilism. You can't tear yourself away when the rest of us want to talk about sex.
You seem really passionate. What are you doing to improve things around you?Plenty. I fight against SJWs for a fucking living, which has allowed my bank account to reach six figures four months ago!
Joelsuf 2016-07-12 06:32:29
you then just had to jump in and declare that, even on an individual scale, justice can’t be found, thus, once again, implying the whole anarchy and nihilism thing, in violation of BD’s express desire for everyone here to shut the fuck up about determinism, nihilism, and free will!And why do you think he lets me? Cuz he knows that I use it as bait and am not as serious about it as everyone else. It was a joke. Hell half (and probably more) of the things I say here (and pretty much everything else on the internet) is a joke. You really think I'm obsessed with those kinds of concepts? Big ol' nope, I use it as bait. My posts are sometimes serious, sometimes bait. BD is able to tell the difference, how come you can't?
I fight against SJWs for a fucking living, which has allowed my bank account to reach six figures four months ago!Cool story bro. I fight against SJWs for free by baiting them and trolling them. Just like I baited you. This could go on forever, but I got my fill of your butthurt lol. Your meltdowns are pretty entertaining lol
Jack Outside the Box 2016-07-12 07:14:24
And why do you think he lets me? Cuz he knows that I use it as bait and am not as serious about it as everyone else. It was a joke. Hell half (and probably more) of the things I say here (and pretty much everything else on the internet) is a joke.What's the punchline?
You really think I’m obsessed with those kinds of concepts? Big ol’ nope, I use it as bait.Bait for what?
Cool story bro.You did ask.
I fight against SJWs for free by baiting them and trolling them.Anyone in their mother's basement can do that. That's not "fighting." Let me know when you become directly responsible for putting one of them in prison for a false rape accusation. Then we'll talk. And remember, you're the one who initiated this train of thought by falsely implying that I do nothing to effect change but sit around and bitch all day.
Your meltdowns are pretty entertaining lolMeltdowns? We're not even speaking the same language anymore (if we ever did).
Jack Outside the Box 2016-07-12 07:58:47
Gil Galad: You have an addiction. You obviously can't help yourself. After reading all of your endless nerdy ramblings (I feel like I'm back in philosophy class) about a topic that BD banned from this blog, with such absurd lengths that would make even Kryptokate blush (at least she talks about shit that is interesting and is a master of brevity compared to you), I just can't bring myself to believe that you get laid. Seriously, find a hobby. But be that as it may, I'll answer some of the points that I think deserve answering without delving too much into your nonsense:
Jack, every time you comment about the meaning of life and so forth I shake my head,Don't sprain your neck.
you already strongly dislike me so my chances of convincing you are slim, but I’ll give it a try:Said the man who then proceeded to write three separate and absurdly long and boring book-long posts which required three cups of coffee on my part to get through. I'm pretty sure the Geneva Convention would qualify your actions as torture! I question your sanity of you think I'm going to spend the next six hours sifting through all that. Seriously, get a job! Or get laid! Or both! Here's a tip: Shorten your goddamn posts! Learn brevity from Kate! Seriously, she knows a lot more about it than you!
You seem to think that belief is a choice, and that therefore people are good or evil based on what they believe. The most basic introspection shows that belief and doubt are things that happen to a person, not things that they “do”.This strikes at the very core of the alpha 2.0 lifestyle. If BD were dead, I would say he's spinning in his grave right now! As any real alpha male 2.0 will tell you, everything in life is your fault, and you choose what you believe. You choose what thoughts you entertain or reject. You make your own destiny. In fact, the winners and losers in this world, or the alphas and betas, can be discerned based on whether or not they believe in that. If you reject the idea that you choose what you believe, that you make your own way in this world, and that everything in life is your fault, than you are not an alpha 2.0. You're spreading disempowering fatalistic trash worthy of the lowest omega male virgin, and I choose not to entertain it or engage it any more!
And this is what you said to Marie on the Men Dating Different Women article, reflecting an outdated conception of evolution that has been obsolete for a century.I don't care if it's obsolete according to the blue pill world. It's still true.
But the truth is that in there, you were being a social darwinist, no less.Correct!
(NB: social darwinism isn’t the belief in darwinism, which is a largely confirmed mechanism for how biological change occurs: it is a belief that that same mechanism should be used in the human society and that it is “good because it’s natural”)Correct! Now stop talking to me like I'm in pre-school!
I was only saying that visual discrimination was a harsh fact of the sexual reality of humans,Harsh for whom? The losers?
and that it couldn’t be blamed on men, but you seem to actually think that this is goodCorrect! It is good!
and that it will make our species “evolve”.Correct!
You see the seeds of inhumanity and totalitarism everywhere in what your contradictors say, but you don’t realize that those seeds are also obvious in what you say: let the weak die and the strong survive,I never said "let the weak die and the strong survive." Everyone has an equal human right to live, even obese lesbian pigs. I said that if the fat and the ugly can't get dates or have sex, this is good for the species. They should either die of old age sad and lonely, or use their loneliness as a motivation to lose weight and become sexually attractive to men! This is simple justice, either way. But I never said that their human right to live should be violated. Where is the "totalitarianism" in what I said? Is it "totalitarian" that an obese pig can't find a man to fuck her? No! That's just justice! Totalitarianism would be an injustice!
and we shall have a better man – which is hilarious, because you’re now joining the Nietzche you were laughing at earlier when Joelsuf mentioned him, and the übermensch.But I want this to happen naturally and organically without violating anyone's human rights. I also believe that your human rights end when you stop being a human as nature has defined "human," hence my desire to ban genetic engineering and the trans-humanist integration of human and machine. If nature hasn't contemplated such a foreign creature, we can't talk about human rights or civil liberties in any realistic way.
you, Jack, if you’d had less lucky genes and a less lucky upbringing, could have been a serial killer. So could I.So my effort is worthless and it's all just blind luck? You'll never be an alpha 2.0 with that attitude. In fact, that powerless attitude is the worst attitude you can have! Now, will you kindly leave me alone? Or at the very least shorten your fucking messages?
Jack Outside the Box 2016-07-12 08:15:01
I fight against SJWs for free by baiting them and trolling them. Just like I baited you.Joelsuf: So you're just trolling this blog then? In other words, you're violating BD's Rule #4! Good to know.
Gil Galad 2016-07-12 08:49:27
Alright Jack, I'll leave you alone. Your reply was going to determine for good whether you were worth discussing with or whether you should be left to your fantasies. It did. Breathe the fresh air. By the way, I wasn't aware - or maybe I forgot - that the subject was a no-no on this blog (I thought it was off the list for the Blackdragon Debate, not in the comments), so sorry BD if that's true.
Blackdragon 2016-07-12 12:21:25
Alright fuckers, it was fun for a little bit, but no more determinism/nihilism talk, per the rule here. The next person who mentions this topic in any way whatsoever (pro or against doesn't matter) gets their comments deleted. Thanks.
Joelsuf 2016-07-12 14:02:12
So you’re just trolling this blog then? In other words, you’re violating BD’s Rule #4! Good to know.Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. Most can tell the difference.
Way_of_Man 2016-07-12 15:24:15
A more specific actionable step I'd throw out there with all of this is: "Wake up an hour earlier and use that extra hour to deal with your problems." I'm not a morning person. So I struggle with this anyway. But if I get a bigger goal in mind or a problem to tackle and use the beginning of the day to take that issue down a notch, I go through the entire rest of my day feeling better than if I had slept in and gone through the motions. It sets a precedent for "I'm going to deal with my problems and go forward onward and upward"
Aidan_MUFC 2016-09-26 15:42:35
to blackdraggon well here goes ive never posted on any site before so hope you reply to my story, ive recently just split up with my long term girlfreind of 11 years to wich we have an 9 year old little girl, so weve been madly in love for the most part maybe not the last 6 months as i caught her telling a couple of little white lies nothing serious but made me suspicius as to somthing going on wich im unsure of as she knows she would have to keep it secret as im abit of a hot head and she knows ill fuck the guy up bad, so 4 1/2 week ago we get back of holiday (2 weeks in cyprus) were on holiday she was asking for us to get married when we get back of holiday but 3 says after we get back we break up well i initialy broke up with her but never realy meant it just in the heat of the argument as ive always been the alpha male and maybe a little controlling the last 6 month after finding her telling white lies, since shes gone ive laid my heart out to her and told her how much i love her and how sorry i am but shes having none of it and saying she just wants to be best freinds for our daughters sake, this is the first time ive ever been emotionly down in my life as ive always put up the tough man bravado but i realy am heartbroke as she is the love of my life and been with her since i was 18 and her 16, I'm realy struggling with the no contact rule as we our splitting our time with my little girl as ive said i will never just be a weekend dad as my little girl is my world and i realy am a top dad, before we split up i used to recieve text of her everday telling me how much she loves me and how lucky she is that were going to grow old together and i never realy used to reply as i thought i was the old school sort of guy not realy a romantic but since she left i realy have realised how important she is to me and im actualy just a big soft cunt that i never knew i was im terified of her never coming back what do you recomend as the complete no contact rule i cant do for our girl and for the last 4 week ive basicly begged her back wich i always said id never do ( tough man talk haha) and now im in a mess for the first time in my life and not even turned up to work wich is my business that is suffering as well, i know youve said anymore comments are just going to be deleted but i realy do hope you can reply with some advice thanks and much appreciated Aidan.
Blackdragon 2016-09-27 12:35:57
You have oneitis. Start dating other women ASAP. And read this.