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Removing My Cravings for Carbs and Sugar – Part 2
-By Caleb Jones
Unlike with past diets and fitness plans, my objective here is not to avoid eating the wrong foods, nor control calories, nor be healthy (at least not yet), nor gain muscle. It’s to not want to eat the wrong foods in the first place. That's it, no other objective. This means something radical is in order, even if it’s not healthy in the short-term. It means things like simply cutting back on the sugar/crappy carbs isn’t going to cut it. It also means, as many of you pointed out in the last post about this, that any diet plan that involves cheat days isn't going to work either.
Instead, I’m going to have to cut it ALL off, cold turkey. Almost every expert source I consulted on this said pretty much the same thing: it will take anywhere from 30 to 90 days of eating ZERO sugar and ZERO shitty carbs before all the cravings for these things go away. After that point, if you’ve succeeded, you won’t need cheat days (as we typically think of them anyway) because you won’t be excited to eat those kinds of foods in the first place.
At a minimum, cheat days will hopefully become an event where you’re eating things like berries, granola, honey, or a little ice cream, instead of crap like doughnuts, pizza and burritos. I know pro athletes who do this. They have cheat days, but their cheat days look completely different than the cheat days you or I are accustomed to.
From all the sources I’ve looked at over the last few weeks, I’ve put together a 12 week plan to reboot my dietary needs and hopefully eliminate my need for sugar and crappy carbs. I don’t know if it will work, but I’m going to give it a shot. If it works, great. If it doesn’t, I will try something else, and I’ll be aware of at least one other technique that doesn’t work (for me at least).
Not wanting crappy carbs or sugar is a radical goal, so this temporary diet is going to be...extreme. I also don’t actually think it will be very healthy at certain points. That’s okay. For the next 12 weeks, health isn’t the goal; permanently removing the cravings is.
Here’s what I’m going to do.
Phase One: Two weeks, nothing but potatoes. That’s right. All I can eat are potatoes (not yams) for two weeks, with nothing on them. No butter, oil, salt, pepper, or anything else to flavor them. Just potatoes. You have to eat the entire potato, including all the skin. This is how Penn Jillette got started with his diet. He lost 100 pounds and kept it off, after being fat for his entire life. Potatoes have a very mild flavor, resetting your taste buds if that's all you eat. Potatoes are also nutritious enough to be the sole source of calories as long as you don’t do it for too long (two weeks is okay), since they have plenty of carbohydrates and some complete protein (but no virtually no fat, which is a problem).
Again, the goal isn’t to be healthy. The goal is to reset my taste buds and remove the desire for sharp tasting foods. Eating nothing but potatoes for two weeks apparently does this. We’ll see. I started this on Monday. Ten days to go.
The good news is that you can eat all the potatoes you want. However, you won't want very much. Plain baked potatoes are both boring and filling (which is part of the point). Since Monday I've only needed to eat 3.5 potatoes a day and feel more or less satiated.
Phase Two: 10 weeks, extreme vegan + intermittent fasting, slowly re-introducing flavors one at a time. Starting at week three, I’m going to very slowly start re-introducing my body to new flavors. During these 10 weeks, no meat, no dairy, no sugar, no salt, no oils, no nuts, and no simple carbs like bread or pasta are allowed. No flavorings of any kind are allowed unless they’re listed in the schedule below. Potatoes are still allowed but only a max of one per day and only if you feel you need it (i.e. if you get light headed or feel the need for protein before you can add beans to the diet).
Intermittent fasting is also a component. You can only eat during a six hour eating window, which is easy for me since I was already doing that with Carb Nite. My eating window is usually between noon and 6pm. I love intermittent fasting, since it makes me feel great and is fantastic for time management. Intermittent fasting is the only part of dieting that I enjoy.
For specific allowed foods, I’m going to use this schedule to re-introduce flavors slowly:
Week 1-2: Phase one - unlimited potatoes only
Week 3: Lettuce (and similar greens like spinach), broccoli, cauliflower, and corn
Week 4: Beans (in moderation), mushrooms, ground pepper
Week 5: Tabasco (and other hot sauces), carrots, Vinegar (including balsamic), onions
Week 6: Tomatoes, peppers.
Week 7: Berries (in moderation, frozen or fresh, not canned), all other vegetables
Week 8: No-salt seasonings, lemon juice, garlic
Week 9: All other fruit (in moderation, frozen or fresh, not canned, no juice)
Week 10-12: No change, but I might nuts in moderation if things are going well
Phase Three: Maintenance, forevermore. After the 12 weeks, hopefully my cravings for eating garbage will be gone. I’m not really sure how phase three will look, but it will be similar to what I do now, which is no sugar, no shitty carbs, no fruit, very low salt and oil, meat (mostly poultry and fish), dairy, and beans in moderation, protein shakes from plant protein (not whey), and a massive focus on vegetables. The closer I get to phase three, the more clearly I’ll define it.
If I still feel like I need some kind of cheat day at this point (and I’m hoping I won’t), only one cheat evening will be allowed once every 13 or 14 days. None of this cheat-once-a-week stuff. Hopefully, during these cheat meals I won’t even want crap like bread, pasta, noodles, crappy carbs, candy, chocolate, or anything too sugary, and focus instead on fruit, granola, no-sugar-added ice cream, candied nuts, and things like that. Again, we’ll see.
Other Things I’ll Be Doing
In addition to the above, I’ll also do the following to help me mentally reprogram:
1. Removing all pictures of food from my office, house, and computer.
2. Removing all food and food containers from the countertops and putting them away so I don’t see them.
3. Refusing to let any shitty food in the house unless it’s a cheat day. (I already do this.)
4. Completely unsubscribing from and avoiding all “food porn,” like those quick videos, so popular now, about how to quickly make tasty dishes.
5. Putting up pics of my ideal and achievable body, based on my body type, everywhere in my house. (I already do this.) It’s a picture of Vin Diesel in a T-shirt when he was not very lean but still looking healthy and reasonably buff, with his head cropped off.
6. Listening to self talk audio every morning. (I already do this.) I have a recording on my phone that spells out my fitness goals, all stated in the present tense and positive, and plays on auto repeat all morning as I get ready for the day. I may start doing this at night as well.
7. Stop talking about food (dispassionate analysis like this blog post doesn’t count).
8. Stop verbally reacting to when I see or smell food, even by joking around or saying “Mmmm” or “That smells so good!”
9. Staying completely away from places like bakeries and parts of the grocery store that have bread and crappy carbs, so I don’t see or smell it.
10. Avoiding restaurants as much as feasible. With my lifestyle, I can’t avoid restaurants completely, but I can (and will) cut back.
11. Recruit the two people I spend the most time with, my daughter and my girlfriend, to help me out, or at least not fight me on this, which will be hard for them. (Because A, they’re girls, and B, their American Societal Programming regarding food, eating out, cheat days, relaxing on weekends, eating during holidays and birthdays, etc.)
The biggest challenge I see is that I’ll be spending a few weeks in Europe right in the middle of phase two. Shit. A challenge to be sure, but not a huge problem, since I have past experience with controlling my eating when I travel. Plus, focusing on vegetables and fruit while in Europe will not be nearly as big a problem as it would in be places like Asia or Mexico. Also, I’ll be with my mom most of that time (I’m taking her to visit her distant relatives in Sicily) and she’s a tiny person who only eats vegetables anyway; I couldn’t have a better travel companion to help me with my oddball diet.
I’ll keep you updated on my progress. I’m moderately optimistic about this, and figure my odds of completely destroying my cravings in 12 weeks are around 50-60%, but I’ve committed to this 12 week program regardless. At a minimum, it will be a fantastic learning experience, and I’ll be that much closer to my fitness goals irrespective of the result.
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Gil Galad 2016-09-01 07:18:23
I don't know CJ. I respect the challenge you're giving yourself, and most of the content of the article makes sense (especially the part about basically reprogramming your cravings: that's true. I'd suggest you read T-Nation's nutrition related articles, they cover this), but the lack of animal protein will have a nasty effect on your testosterone, and ability to workout. Putting aside any possible considerations about ethics and the like, it's generally a bad idea to go quasi vegan for 12 weeks, even for someone *not* trying to gain muscle; lean meat isn't a craving that needs suppression (the craving of meat in its *dirty* forms - we know them - does). I agree that Vin Diesel when he's not-so-lean is a good goal to shoot for for an endomorph.
Megatherion 2016-09-01 09:10:24
Indeed it will be a challenge and a hard one going to Trinacria (Sicily) and keep your intentions. Sicilian cuisine is one of the best of my country. and you understimate the real problem, that won't be restaurants. It will be your relatives You clearly don't know the means of sicilian hospitality.Especially the women they'll want you to eat and they'll feel offended if you won't. Prepare to resist...anyway you'll find a lot of wonderful vegetables , especially eggplants , peppers ,and broccoli, almost everywhere.
Miguel Guzmán 2016-09-01 09:15:08
On the getting rid of the cravings part, I used an NLP visualization for this. Whenever I saw some tasty but absolutely horrible food, like bakeries, I tried to vividly visualize them overlayed by a very gross material. Say, try to picture them covered in ashes, or rotten human blood, or vomit, or greasy motor oil, or whatever disgusting material your mind can come up with (visual). Then, try to also imagine how the mixture of the bakeries with the fould material would smell like (olfatory). Then, do a facial expression of disgust, and, if possible, do a body movement of reeling back from it (kinesthetic). This way you begin conditioning your brain to react with disgust at bakeries, which is something I do now. When someone offers doughnuts I automatically reel back with a disgust expression while saying "carbs, that's gross !!!" - hehe 😀
Miguel Guzmán 2016-09-01 09:24:36
By the way if, when travelling to Europe, you happen to come to Spain, would you announce it? If you do meetups, I think there are people around here who would be very happy to meet you !
Caleb Jones 2016-09-01 10:06:05
lack of animal proteinI knew guys would be terrified of the lower protein. I'll focus on building muscle after I don't have a carb addiction. Also, 1. To repeat from the article: "my objective here is not to avoid eating the wrong foods, nor control calories, nor be healthy (at least not yet), nor gain muscle." 2. I'll be at a caloric deficit most of the time, so the lower protein isn't as big of a deal as you think. I won't be gaining muscle either way. 3. There is no such thing as permanent muscle loss (via a diet). 4. I'm on TRT. My testosterone will be just fine. 5. I'm heavily endomorphic. That + TRT = I have never, ever had any trouble gaining muscle in my life. Its the easiest thing in the world for me and always has been, including now. 5. To quote Penn Jillette: "I think the thing that made me fattest and sickest was worrying about getting enough protein."
you understimate the real problem, that won’t be restaurants. It will be your relativesOh, I know. I'm going to have to offend my relatives. 🙂
On the getting rid of the cravings part, I used an NLP visualization for this.Good idea. I've done similar things in the past but never stuck with them.
By the way if, when travelling to Europe, you happen to come to Spain, would you announce it?I honestly don't have any plans to go to Spain, but if that changes, sure!
epi 2016-09-01 15:09:18
I have 2 suggestions for safety checks. One is to monitor heart rate variability (the opposite of stress) every morning. You can do it with the HRV4Training app or some other app, and you can do it with your finger on the camera, no heart monitor needed. The other is to monitor your sleep with a Fitbit or some other motion detector. Less movement seems to go with more REM and deep sleep.
Richard 2016-09-01 16:53:51
I second the NLP trickery. Your diet sounds miserable, Caleb. People also say that you can eat whatever you want, as long as your calories are less than your maintenance you will lose weight. I personally can also verify that, I've had days where I've literally only eaten candy and still lost weight.
Caleb Jones 2016-09-01 17:46:20
HRV4Training appI searched on Google Play and couldn't find this. Do you have other suggestions?
Your diet sounds miserable, Caleb.It is. Fortunately most men will never have to go through it.
People also say that you can eat whatever you want, as long as your calories are less than your maintenance you will lose weight. I personally can also verify that, I’ve had days where I’ve literally only eaten candy and still lost weight.Yep, done that too. I used to eat ice cream sundaes regularly and I still lost weight. That's not part of my problem though.
Paul Murray 2016-09-01 18:59:27
I did intermittent fasting for a bit. Gave it up, because I suck, but while on it I discovered something important: I eat too much. Another bloke doing the same thing had exactly the same realisation. The sheer quantity that I ate (and eat) is simply a habit and nothing more. IF breaks the habit of preparing (or just buying) meals and eating them without thinking, breaks the habit of eating until you are comfortably full. It changes your idea of how much food you should be putting in your piehole at a meal. Perhaps it's not just me and that other bloke: perhaps the #1 problem with obesity is not carbs, or sugars, or bad fats, or anything else than simple portion size.
epi 2016-09-01 21:39:39
Re: HRV4Training: it's unfortunately only for iphone. I used to use EliteHRV which is free and there's an android version. But you need a heart monitor like the polar h7. There's plenty of other HRV apps and devices out there, but they can vary amazingly in price.
Gil Galad 2016-09-02 00:47:14
Anyone who's interested in longevity needs a diet more elaborate than just "don't exceed maintenance level calories". Long term, sugar is pretty much a toxic substance. I wouldn't call a diet of candy or ice cream a diet, even if it was hypocaloric. Besides, the source of your calories has an effect on how your body uses them AND how it "learns" to use calories in the future (nutriment partitioning), which means that two guys taking the same calories but with different sources and fat/carb/protein ratios will see unequal results in health, leanness, well-being, etc - all other things being equal.
Lon Spector 2016-09-02 05:43:46
If you truly believe that junk food is harmful to you, you should have no difficulity giving it up. How to you think drug addicts kick their habits? They come to really see that they are hurting themselves, and they STOP! The first thing you do when you're digging a hole, is stop digging. If your diet was connected to your sex or economic life you'd see how quickly you'd stop undercutting yourself. It's so simple: No candy, pastries, soda, ice cream, pudding, wheat, fruit drinks, really surgary fruits. Eat burries,prunes,kiefer, nuts, and grass fed meats. Take suppliments, Seravitle HGH, protobiotics. Your rolling in the dough, and rolling in the _______. So many others envy you. So why not stop the slow suicide?
Kurt 2016-09-02 07:24:27
Interesting approach and, I'm sure, well researched. The potato thing, don't think I could ever do that but power to you. I would think that it would only reinforce the carb cravings once you have to stop the potatoes, but I've never tried it. Will be curious to see how it goes.
Julien 2016-09-02 07:48:49
Hello Caleb! You seem to be on the good track! I recommend you again the book 'the thrive diet' by Brendan Brazier. It explains in details how such refined carbs are empty of nutrients and fiber and causes stress to your body and glands. I am not affiliated to this book, I just happen to have read it and find it the most clear an wholistic book explaining nutrition. All other advice I have read so far, including what you are doing now, are already included and thoroughly explained in a systemic way, with detailed causes mechanisms and consequences, in there. Keep up 🙂
RT 2016-09-02 10:04:50
I noticed when I exercise or do something interesting and interact with other people, I dont want junk food. I've read about Portugal where they rehabilitated drug users by reconnecting them to society which removed their addictions, similar studies exist in mice where mice don't get addicted to drug-water if they are in a "mice-paradise" cage - i.e. lots of other mice to interact with and other cool mice stuff. Mice which did not have these amenities quickly got addicted to drug-water. As a self-employed guy who lives alone, you probably spent lots of time by yourself which contributes to carb-cravings. Having other people around might help with that, just a thought
AB 2016-09-03 05:04:31
[off-topic, so feel free to move my question elsewhere or maybe talk about it on another occasion] Caleb, could you share your thoughts on your money tracking habits? I've been using a customised spreadsheet which shows me my planned budget and actual spending in various areas (bills, transport, entertainment, savings etc.) and spits out some pie charts and plots trends. However, I have to manually input the data. It can be a ball ache as it requires going through individual transactions in my exported bank statements, assigning them to categories and then transferring to the spreadsheet. I've got fed up with it as too much is happening right now and weeks or months of data to be imported are piling up. I could automate this, but before doing so I want to look into tested solutions and available approaches. There are tracking aggregators (sites, apps) that collect data for you and do exactly what I want, but I'm not at all convinced I want to give access to my bank accounts and/or make it easy for them to build a profile of my spending habits. But maybe it's unavoidable in the modern world. I'd be interested to read about how you deal with your finances tracking (budget, spending, savings, investments). One or two simple apps? Offline "manual" spreadsheets (how often do you update them)? Professional software? Any solutions to import/export issues for multiple accounts and currencies? Perhaps you've talked about it already, but I haven't found what I'm looking for on your blogs, so I'd appreciate a reference. Thanks.
Austin 2016-09-03 07:06:31
Why did you specifically call out whey protein? I haven't found anything negative regarding that and am interested in the reasoning as I use it quite regularly and maybe need to rethink that! Do you happen to drink or eat "diet" products? A few years ago I realized all the chubby to obese guys sitting around a big conference table had a diet Coke in front of them while all the healthy guys had water or even regular Coke! I really believe that the chemical sweeteners totally screw up your taste buds and cravings. Gave them up nearly 3 years ago with no weight gain from the "regular" stuff and other benefits like less inflammation and joint pain.
Caleb Jones 2016-09-03 12:11:12
Caleb, could you share your thoughts on your money tracking habits?Quickbooks and a single Excel spreadsheet. I keep things very simple.
Why did you specifically call out whey protein?I switched from whey powder to organic protein powder a few months ago. I've spoken to several doctors about this, and their take on it is that for maximum long-term health, you want to duplicate conditions of ancient man as much as humanly possible with your diet. Thousands of years ago, when you were a hunter/gatherer, did you sit under a cow and drink a gallon of its milk for its protein? Nope. You ate a lot of plants though. So more likely your body is designed to assimilate plant protein than protein from cow's milk. Maybe. (And yes, I realize whey protein powder is not the same as milk and the analogy isn't 100% accurate.) I have no idea if this makes any long-term difference (it may not), but as always, I like to put the odds in my favor. Its still protein and costs the same, so why not?
Do you happen to drink or eat “diet” products?Never. That stuff is BS.
I really believe that the chemical sweeteners totally screw up your taste buds and cravings.Absolutely. The good news is that I never drink soda or juice (or milk, or coffee, or anything else). All I've drank my entire adult life is carbon filtered water.
Shubert 2016-09-03 20:28:16
If it's not in my house, I never have a problem with eating it. Not to be insulting, but have you ever tried that?
Pyro Nagus 2016-09-03 22:59:47
@Shubert Read the last part of the article again. "Starting at week three, I’m going to very slowly start re-introducing the subject to new flavors..." Sounds like a cruel human experiment, lol. I'm glad you actually implemented my advice on avoiding negative influences and seeking out positive ones. I really didn't expect you to already have posters of your male model... *Coughs* Gay *Coughs*... Anywho, I really like Miguel Guzmán's idea on NLP trickery. I'll use it on my father who is endomorphic. Good luck
Lachlan 2016-09-04 02:05:40
Caleb can I throw a suggestion out there - you've mentioned that you are spiritual, but you don't really talk about it in your blog posts. I had the same issue as yourself, and I had great success on this issue with increasing my connection to God / the universe / whatever you want to call the greater things than ourselves. I focused on ensuring that I knew that I had enough, would always have enough, and feeling perfectly connected to a universe that supplied everything I could ever need. It really removed a lot of the CAUSE of my overeating - which was a subtle fear from childhood / past lives that I wouldn't have enough to eat, that I would starve or be otherwise incapacitated due to environmental factors outside my control. It also helped me tone down my grasping at money - it all relates. I believe Robert Anton Wilson called it the Bio-Survival Fear... it's one of the biggest things we have to overcome on our spiritual journey. Good luck!
Drexel Scott 2016-09-04 03:04:01
It's not just the taste you'll be dealing. I just tried a no-carb diet myself, and the effects are much worse than just eating bland food--I found myself lethargic, forgetful, and it felt like I was walking around in a daze. My brain simply didn't have the energy it needed to function properly. If you find a way around that please do post about it; I gave up after about 3 or 4 days on the no-carb track.
Lon Spector 2016-09-04 05:53:44
You don't need gimmics, you need "live" foods. If it doesn't grow, or if it's "processed," don't eat it. Jettison garbage. You've got all the sex and material items you need, so who needs fattening food?
Gray Beard 2016-09-04 07:25:21
Great post, so interesting. I hadn't heard of this before. You inspired me to try a version of this. I've also been dealing with sugar cravings. So many commenters trying to give you advice to solve other problems than what you discuss. I guess nutrition is one of those topics where everyone feels comfortable doling out 'expert' advice. I met up with an old friend from high school recently. We had always been similar height and weight. He is now obese while I am lean. It hasn't come naturally for me, I've been counting calories in a spreadsheet and experimenting with diets for close to a decade since my appetite went haywire and tried to make me fat. So there we are: me with thought put into everything I eat daily, him drinking a 32oz sugar drink with a box of donuts for later. And he proceeds to enlighten me about the key to weight loss. Which blew me away at the time, but I couldn't bring myself to call him out on it. He probably thinks lean comes easy to me, and so what would I know about weight loss. Anyway I wasn't even going to comment, but with all the 'concerned' comments I thought it would be sad if you wrote fewer articles like this because of the type of response you get so I wanted to add a positive note. I'm sure you know to expect the expert opinions on posts like this but I think it can't hurt to add to the other side of the column. I have great respect for the analytical approach you take and the way you experiment with things to see exactly what works for you. I've had great success with the same approach in my nutrition and exercise work.
MrJ 2016-09-04 09:07:12
I recently came across the theory that cravings can be caused by gut bacteria disbalance. Here is the article about it - https://chriskresser.com/do-gut-microbes-control-your-food-cravings/ Chris Kresser (or was it Grace Liu from thegutinstitute.com ?) also mentions that one of methods of feeding the good bugs and starving the bad bugs in the gut is potato diet. What a coincidence.
Caleb Jones 2016-09-04 13:53:46
If it’s not in my house, I never have a problem with eating it. Not to be insulting, but have you ever tried that?To quote part 1 of this article: You name it, I’ve tried it. Seriously, if you say, “Hey Caleb, have you tried…?” the answer is yes, I’ve tried it, and likely stuck with it for 6-12 months or more. The answer is yes. There may not be any food in my house, but Taco Bell is just 5 minutes away.
I had the same issue as yourself, and I had great success on this issue with increasing my connection to God / the universe / whatever you want to call the greater things than ourselves. I focused on ensuring that I knew that I had enough, would always have enough, and feeling perfectly connected to a universe that supplied everything I could ever need. It really removed a lot of the CAUSE of my overeatinDid that too. Still doing it. Didn't fix this particular problem. Again, you name it, I've tried it.
I guess nutrition is one of those topics where everyone feels comfortable doling out ‘expert’ advice.The problem isn't that, so much is as everyone loves to dole out advice that worked for them or worked for a friend. One thing I've definitely learned in this fitness journey over the last several years is that we all have RADICALLY different bodies. What worked for you may not work at all for your buddy, and what didn't work for you at all, or even made you sick(!), may work great for him and make him feel great. Thus, male fitness advice is a huge grab bag of various different things that work or don't work depending on your individual body and your psychology. There is absolutely no one-size-fits-all, other than the 3 or 4 basics (control your calories, sugar is bad, etc).
Anyway I wasn’t even going to comment, but with all the ‘concerned’ comments I thought it would be sad if you wrote fewer articles likeI'm accustomed to this reaction and planned on it, and frankly even the negative or concerned comments here are much nicer than normal. Usually they're the variety of OMG YOU'RE SO STUPID YOU'RE DOING THIS ALL WRONG YOU'LL LOSE MUSCLE YOUR BRAIN WILL SUFFER AAAAHHHH!!!
also mentions that one of methods of feeding the good bugs and starving the bad bugs in the gut is potato diet.Yep. One of the upsides of this potato thing is that it acts as a cleanse. (It's almost a fast.)
Shanghai_bobby 2016-09-05 17:40:40
Heya BD, Have you thought about having a look at Kinobdy and Big Brandon Carter on youtube? There isn't anything wrong with sugar or refined carbs if you eat it in moderation. These guys eat pretty much whatever and just make sure their protein macros is hit, along with being in a caloric deficit. IF helps with this a tonne. I used to do the whole no carb/low carb thing, and long term it just isn't sustainable. I would do crash diets and dirty bulks - it was a massive nightmare. Ever since I started doing IF, I usually eat at a 300 - 400kcal deficit every day, have 1x cheat day per week, and have been at 10 - 12% bf for the last 5 months. This has helped me address my cravings, lose 10% bf, eat more enjoyably, maintain strength, and look aesthetically better than I've ever had before. There are heaps of people at my gym who flip out when I tell them I eat about 300g of carbs a day (sweet potato, potato, rice, noodles, etc. etc.), and maintain 10 - 12% bf with good aesthetics, and have an entire cheat day of whatever. Not trying to be a downer, but I sincerely believe this diet plan you're going on is going to result in a massive dip in your testosterone, your diddle going limp frequently, your fat buildup increasing, your muscle volume decreasing, your body's protein synthesis becoming less effective than it is now, consistent low mood, and other things that cause all sorts of issues. I'd definitely recommend having a look at Kinobdy, Big Brandon Carter and Student Aesthetics before doing this crazy diet. Reading this post is making my eyes water! Cheers, SB
Caleb Jones 2016-09-05 18:31:04
There isn’t anything wrong with sugar or refined carbs if you eat it in moderation.I think you missed the point of the article. I don't have the psychological ability to eat sugar or refined cards in moderation, long-term.
Not trying to be a downer, but I sincerely believe this diet plan you’re going on is going to result in a massive dip in your testosterone, your diddle going limp frequently, your fat buildup increasing, your muscle volume decreasing, your body’s protein synthesis becoming less effective than it is now, consistent low mood, and other things that cause all sorts of issues.Yeah, you didn't read the entire article, or part 1, or even the comments here. Go back and read that stuff.
Shanghai_bobby 2016-09-05 21:30:35
Just read what I believe is part 1 - the 'carb nite' article right? If this is correct, something Brandon Carter calls carb backloading might be good for you. Basically, fast throughout the day, use black coffee to stave off hunger, when it's time to eat only eat protein + vege (no carbs until after weights), do weights training, carb backload. Can you link where you don't have physiological capabilities to eat refined carbs? Couldn't find it...
Sean 2016-09-06 18:16:20
Good luck! Seems pretty tough. I have eaten very low carb/paleo for about 6 months... lowest weight in 10 years (down 18 pounds)... 7 more pounds and I'll be able to see my abs again!! I am sure you have done this style of diet but I have found that my cravings for carbs are virtually non-existent. Also, I think a major factor is that my stress management/anxiety has gotten much better in recent years so I don't usually feel drained with no will power and just stuff my hole with pizza like in years past. Hopefully I keep it up!
Greg Lynch 2016-09-09 03:37:42
Hi Caleb, I read your posts about your journey to weight-loss, you're so fucking motivated man! 😉 It's beautiful. It seems that you've tried a *lot* of different things. As your goal is to reprogram your mind to stop crave food that goes against your ideal body composition, have you ever considered to find a damn good hypnotherapist and work on it for a few sessions with him? Self NLP / Hypnosis are great tools also, but sometimes you need a spark to ignite a good fire. A good hypnotherapist, that work with an adequate depth of hypnosis, can make your reprogramming easier. A few weeks ago, I hypnotised a girl that would like to lose weight. I guided her in a deep trance and feed her with the reality that she see herself leaner and leaner, day after day, and other suggestions that goes in health and fitness direction. During this session, she strongly feels some kind of "mental throwing", reject, and relate this to me. I asked her what did she eat for lunch, it was a big sandwich with fries, mayonaise and fat meat. Her body and mind, together and along her new reality that she's leaner and leaner, reject that food that she deeply know isn't appropriate to her new reality. Today, she is less and less attracted to junk food. This shit works.
eric 2016-09-15 12:24:49
This is insanity, destined for long term failure and will also make you look older. You even have the mindset you are trying and aren't sure it will work. Check out nerd fitness with steve kamb. Read his collecting underpants post. His program is all about quests and leveling up, it's fun.
Caleb Jones 2016-09-15 13:09:02
will also make you look olderI'm only going to do this for 12 weeks dude, not the rest of my life. I will cause no irreparable damage to by body in 12 weeks.
Check out nerd fitness with steve kamb. Read his collecting underpants post. His program is all about quests and leveling up, it’s fun.I'm not looking for methods to lose weight. I'm already good at that. I'm looking for methods to permanently remove cravings.
Eric 2016-09-17 09:52:58
"I’m not looking for methods to lose weight. I’m already good at that. I’m looking for methods to permanently remove cravings." Missed my point, dude. I knew for years that my issues were because I was always hoping that I was going to be able to eat sugar/carbs and stay hot somehow. That's delusional thinking. I wasn't fat as a kid with the exception of a very brief period, but I got teased and humiliated a lot. As I got older I fluctuated from one extreme to the other. The whole point about Nerd Fitness is permanent mindset change. Execution in slow stages. add things in and crowd out the bad vs cold turkey or crash. It's a holistic approach designed to create permanent change. After years of changing my mindset, my problem turned out to be physical. We just aren't the same as we age. Just got my tests back and my testosterone and Vitamin D were dangerously low. My doctor says I should drop that last 15 I couldn't quite get rid of pretty fast. Even if you blow me off, thanks for sharing.
Caleb Jones 2016-09-17 15:59:59
Missed my point, dude.Nope, I got your point. You said I would look older, and I said doing it for 12 weeks would not. You also are saying your nerd diet helped you change your behavior, and that's great, but as I said that's not what I'm looking for. I've already changed my day-to-day eating behaviors many years ago. I eat 100% healthy every day, 90% of the time, whereas years before I lived on burritos and burgers every day. I have the behavioral stuff nailed now. My problem is cravings. It's the 10% (or less) when I eat bad that screws me up. It has nothing to do with habit, since my daily eating habits are perfect. It has to do with something physiological/psychological. I appreciate the help though.
Eric 2016-09-17 17:41:20
"It has to do with something physiological/psychological." When I brought up the point above to my former coach, I was dismissed and made to feel like I was crazy. I was told I had 20 seconds to work it out and then we were moving on. I paid him over $1000 for answers and instead was left with more questions. It was horrible. i was tired of the yo-yo and being bullied by people who couldn't relate. I feel like what you said on your last post about looking deep into your psyche is accurate and I've done it for years but now it was time to stop the one extreme or the other. I don't know if you've seen that nun called the Iron Nun. She started at 47 running to balance mind, body and spirit. She's done 325 triathlons and 45 Iron Mans and she's 85. That's how youthful and full of life I want to be. That's the goal of nerd fitness. Well at least if I had come to you for coaching, the first thing you would have probably recommended was to get my testosterone levels check given all my symptoms rather than just get upset with me and shut me out. I look forward to following your journey on this. Just think though, it could be worse, we could be women and having to deal with our self worth being tied up in this too. Thanks again