Remember, the above infographic is just regarding Pakistan. Obama has drones killing children and civilians in Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, and likely several other countries.
Obama just came out and admitted he accidentally killed an American aid worker with a drone strike. Oops. Sorry about that. He “took full responsibility” though. That’s good. Will he be personally penalized in any way whatsoever? Nope. Will he stop using drones to kill innocent people? Nope.
Also remember that if you’re an American, this is where your tax dollars are going. Isn’t that nice?
Gotta love that Hope and Change™.
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Steven
Posted at 08:26 pm, 23rd April 2015Most people in the West either don’t care, or they believe that these Drone strikes are necessary for the Orwellian “War on Terrorism”.
This is why the rest of the world either won’t care, or will believe that it will be a good thing when the Government uses them on us too.
buzz
Posted at 08:55 pm, 23rd April 2015It really beats the hell out of being drafted.
Drones while expensive are cheaper than any other kind of warfare.
All warfare has some unintended victims.
buzz
Posted at 09:01 pm, 23rd April 2015The enemy takes hostages and uses them as shields, it did not work did it?
Caleb Jones
Posted at 09:23 pm, 23rd April 2015Which is exactly why you never, ever, EVER go to war unless it’s absolutely fucking necessary and you have literally no other option. None of Obama’s wars in Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, Afghanistan, et al fall into that category.
buzz
Posted at 09:37 pm, 23rd April 2015So you want to take his Nobel peace prize away from him?
LOL how did he get that anyway?
buzz
Posted at 09:40 pm, 23rd April 2015Oh come on you can’t blame IRAQ on Obama
you have to be fair on that one…
buzz
Posted at 10:11 pm, 23rd April 2015Yes I do believe Obama is the second worst president we have had in my lifetime (I am 23 years older than you)
but you still have to be fair
there are so many things wrong with him
but war monger is not one of them.
If anything he does not identify as an American
and does not see America as a separate country from the rest of the world and actually does not fight enough or hard enough for us.
Caleb Jones
Posted at 12:35 am, 24th April 2015How can you possibly say an American president in the middle of FIVE wars isn’t a warmonger?
Obama is the commander in chief of the US armed forces. He could end all five of these wars at 8am tomorrow morning if he wanted to, including Iraq, all by himself, with the stroke of a pen. But he doesn’t. This is because he’s a warmongering corporatist and an avid supporter of Dick Cheney’s neocon empire.
Just because he’s less of a warmonger than Bush was doesn’t mean he’s not a warmonger. Obama is the very definition of the word. If he was truly worthy of that silly and hypocritical Nobel Prize, he’d end the wars right now and bring the troops and the drones home to where they belong: to defend our borders. Not Iraq’s borders; our borders.
But he won’t do that. He loves these wars. Because he’s a warmonger.
buzz
Posted at 03:24 am, 24th April 2015There was a time when I felt exactly as you do
it was 46 years ago though
and I thought I was going to be drafted.
And we agree on so many things well except Social Security probably.
I do agree we should use our military to enforce our borders
shoot to kill and take no prisoners and we should have started that years ago.
You are right
He could end all five of these wars at 8am tomorrow morning if he wanted to, including Iraq,(which Bush started)
all by himself, with the stroke of a pen.
(I don’t think there is any love between Obama and Dick Cheney.)
(I don’t think it is about the money for Obama although it was for Bush)
Well our side of these wars anyway.
Do you have any idea what would happen if he did that?
You think they are just going to say
thank you now we can be friends?
(They do say death to America, right?
and it is not just because we are blowing them up,
it is because they have a different religion than we do
and they believe that because of their religion they should be successful and we should not be)
Do you think there is going to be a WWIII?
Which countries are going to be on which side?
Who is going to win?
How long until it happens?
Most wars are fought over territory
(all taken now)
or Religion.
The world population is growing geometrically
(the time to double is getting shorter)
and it doesn’t look like we are going to be able travel to other planets or stop population growth.
We know Israel has nuclear weapons and Iran does too
they just don’t have enough yet that they think they can win.
And lets see how long have the Jews and the Muslims been fighting?
You know better than I do, lets say 1000 years or more?
And Israel was our Ace in the whole and Obama is making them angry….
I just hope I get my last 20 years and I will be outta here.
But I think we need to work on drone technology
and build them as fast as we can
and it still may be too late….
Caleb Jones
Posted at 09:58 am, 24th April 2015I already answered most of those questions here.
There are far better ways to deal with terrorism than blowing up thousands of innocent people by accident all over the middle east.
Tony
Posted at 07:46 am, 25th April 20159/11 was far and away the deadliest terrorist attack on US soil. Even taking out the World Trade Centers, it would still be the deadliest just from the Pentagon and Flight 93. Yet even then only 3,000 people died. 3,000 is a lot, but the number of innocent people we’ve killed in response is far bigger than that.
And do we get anything out of these drone strikes? Was Osama bin Laden killed by a drone strike? Actually, the entire reason we sent troops to kill bin Laden was because we wanted proof that he we got the right guy. Why wouldn’t that be the case for any other terrorist leader?
Even for somebody who doesn’t care about innocent lives and think we should just bomb the whole place, the drone strikes only put us in more danger, because for every terrorist we kill 10 more decide to join in retaliation.
Drones are good in theory, since we can fight wars without risking human lives. But there’s no reason we should be doing these bombings.
buzz
Posted at 06:22 pm, 25th April 2015Umm
***There are far better ways to deal with terrorism than blowing thousands of innocent people by accident all over the middle east.***
I think you meant blowing up?
Blowing them all could work I suppose 🙂
I like the way you think,
I respect your opinions,
I enjoy asking you questions more than anybody else I can think of
but a lot of your ideas have to start with a clean slate in a new country.
We are kind of stuck with the history we have.
Caleb Jones
Posted at 06:32 pm, 25th April 2015Correction made. I re-read it and laughed. Pretty awesome.
What a horrible, depressing, and inaccurate worldview. “We HAVE to keep blowing up innocent people all over the middle east. There’s no other option, period, with our history.”
buzz
Posted at 06:46 pm, 25th April 2015Approximately 2000 years ago three religions started up.
I think Judaism was first, then Christianity and then Muslim/Islam.
These religions are based on the same stories from about the same time give or take a few hundred years and they have been fighting with each other and are responsible for the majority of wars since then.
Very few of them are innocent anymore.
The Jews and the Christians are about 700 years ahead of the Muslims in chilling out.
Body count is irrelevant.
If a war started in the middle east and everybody was killed except one Jew, one Christian and one Muslim it would just start all over again.
Not fighting is not an option.
Well unless everybody switched to atheism
but that is not going to happen.
Caleb Jones
Posted at 06:58 pm, 25th April 2015Not fighting isn’t an option…if you live in the middle east.
We Americans don’t live in the middle east. It’s an entire ocean away. We shouldn’t be over there. It’s a land of pure chaos for thousands of years and it’s none of our business.
Plus, we’re the most powerful nation on Earth, by far, militarily and financially. If they embargo our oil or something like that, we have many, many effective options, most of which have nothing to do with actually killing anyone, as I detailed in my linked post above.
buzz
Posted at 11:54 pm, 27th April 2015Have you seen this?
One of our principals has been if we are going to have a war we would prefer that it be there instead of here.
Radical Islam Hungrily Eyeing US as Target
Tuesday, 21 Apr 2015 07:47 AM
By Bernard Kerik
Concern has been mounting recently over a trend on U.S. soil: Radical Islam is trying ever-new ways to sow destruction here. The examples are disturbing.
Over the past several weeks, six Minnesota men have been charged with terrorism, accused of traveling or attempting to travel to Syria to join the Islamic State group; two men were arrested in New York as they prepared to join militants in Syria and a third man was arrested in Florida for helping to fund their operation.
Two women from Queens suspected of being a terrorist sympathizer’s were arrested in New York for allegedly plotting to detonate pressure cooker bombs in New York City, and a U.S. Army National Guard member and his cousin were arrested in a terror plot, which included bombing an Illinois armory and attacks on law-enforcement that could’ve killed up to 100 people.
Special: US Intelligence Adviser Issues Stark Warning on Economy.
By all accounts, there have been about 70 attempted attacks on American soil since the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, but the arrests over the past several weeks shows a dramatic increase in activity in the radical Islamic movement against the West, specifically the United States.
http://www.newsmax.com/BernardKerik/radical-islam-terrorists-isis/2015/04/21/id/639743/
Caleb Jones
Posted at 11:24 am, 28th April 2015You’re a neoconservative. You look around and see danger everywhere. I have a different world view.
Yes, I’m aware of all that you posted. It doesn’t change a thing I said. Go back and re-read my article on terrorism for my solutions.