Since it’s a big city only two hours away by plane from my home, I’ve been to Los Angeles countless times. “Great place to visit, but I’d never want to live there” is the perfect statement for LA, at least for me. It’s an utterly fantastic place, and I love visiting there, and always have a great time when I go. Yet if I had to live there full time I’d probably have to kill myself, certainly when it came that time of year to pay my taxes.
Here I am once again, on the tail end of my current month-long trip to Asia. As always, I’m having a great time.
1. The women. I’ve said this before but I’ll say it here again to be official. Los Angeles is one of the best-looking women cities on the entire planet Earth. It could even be number one for many men. In terms of the cities I’ve visited over my life, only Miami beats it, and it barely beats it, and that assumes you stay in the normal downtown areas of Miami. Otherwise, LA is king when it comes to hot women. If you’ve ever visited here, you know exactly what I’m talking about. If you’ve never visited here, you need to.
I could write an entire article about how smokin’ hot LA women are, but I’ll do my best to summarize. This hotness factor here extends to women of all ages and all races. Teenagers, young women, older women, milfs, and even some of the grandma-age women here are all hot, across the board. There are some cities where only the younger women tend to be hot. In LA, it’s all ages.
All races too. White women are hotter here (what few there are; more on this in a minute). Hispanic women are hotter here. Asian women are hotter here (and many actually have boobs and butts here!). Black women are hotter here. I’m not even into black women, but damn, black women in LA are so sexy it’s ridiculous.
Most women you see here, hot or otherwise, are not white. Only 27% of people in LA are white, and this number decreases every year. (Ignore the “white alone” numbers in the census, since those include Hispanics; only look at the “white, not Hispanic” numbers.) This is clearly reflected when you walk around and observe people. The vast majority of the hot women you’ll see here are mixed, Hispanic, black, or Asian. This drives right-wingers insane, but if you’re a guy like me who finds all races beautiful, you’ll be very happy here. I’m just making it clear that if you only like 100% white girls, you won’t find LA women quite as amazing as I’m saying.
It’s also the sheer amount of hot women that so unusual. Go to any busy place in LA; a mall (even a “shitty” mall in a poorer or more “normal” area), a food court, a business park during lunchtime or rush hour, and you’ll see a constant flow of super-hotties, more than you can count. It such a stark difference from just about every other city that it almost feels like you’re in a movie or a TV show.
I’m sitting in a normal, suburban (non-fancy) LA mall right now, typing these words, watching all the people walk by, and god damn, it’s a constant parade of babes. Any time I rotate my head 180 degrees right now, I can pick out at least two in the current moving crowd. In any other city, I have to walk around for several minutes in a crowded place to find one girl I’d find attractive enough to have sex with, if I’m lucky.
This next part is hard to explain. Even the average women are…well, hotter here. “Then they’re hot, not average, BD.” Well, no. This is the part that’s hard to explain. In LA, it’s as if all women are several notches hotter than in other cities. There are many “average” women walking around in LA who clearly aren’t “hot,” but whom I’d be very happy with in bed.
Tom Leykis used to say that the 1-10 scale in LA was different. He’d call a woman an “LA 9” instead of just a 9. This means that an LA 6 is much hotter than a 6 in every other city. Upon first hearing that many years ago, I thought that was dumb. Now, after having visited LA many times, I have to admit this is correct. I have an “8” rule in that I don’t have sex with anyone I consider less than an 8 (that’s an 8 in my opinion of course), but if I lived in LA (and I never would, for reasons I’ll explain in a minute), I could very easily drop this down to 6.
Like I said, hard to explain. Come visit LA, pick a random mall, and walk around, and you’ll see what I’m talking about. Even the average girls are cute. Even with the fat girls here, you can tell that if they went on a diet and lost a lot of weight, they’d be hot.
I’ve always wondered why guys who live in LA even bother with night game. In a normal city, night game is needed because that’s where all the hot girls congregate. However in LA, night game is completely unnecessary here. Want a meet a hot chick? Walk out of your house and go to any reasonably crowded place and there will be more of them than you can count, literally. Daygame or online dating is all an LA guy needs. (LA is a daygame paradise!)
Don’t get me wrong; LA is still in America, so there are lots of fat people here. This is further increased by the sheer amount of Mexicans in LA, who are even fatter than American whites, and that’s saying something. So I’m not saying “everyone in LA is hot.” There are plenty of ugly and fat people here. I’m just saying that there are more hot women here, as a percentage of population, than just about anywhere on Earth. Again, if you don’t believe me, just come visit here and you’ll see for yourself.
Okay, enough about the women (though I could talk about LA women all day). Let’s move on to LA’s other positive benefit.
2. The weather here is beyond amazing. The weather is the one reason why people in LA put up with so much abuse and incompetence from their ridiculous government. It’s not quite the best weather in the world (that would be San Diego, just a few hours south of here), but it’s almost there.
It’s sunny, clear, and warm, but not too warm. The nights here are simply incredible. You can walk outside at night in LA (and most of southern California, to be fair), even out late, with shorts or short-sleeved shirts, almost year-round, and never feel too cold or uncomfortable in any way. If there was one thing I could “import” from LA to my current or future home town (besides the women) it would be the nighttime weather here. I always miss it terribly when I go back home.
3. The air quality has been a long and interesting story in LA. Back in the 50s, 60s, and early 70s, LA’s local environment was pristine, and it was considered the most beautiful place in the United States. Then in the 80s and 90s, it went to absolute shit. The smog here was horrible, and a disgusting haze hung over the entire area. LA went from a great place to live to a place people ridiculed. Several movies at the time demonstrated this; the best one being the Michael Douglas film Falling Down from the early 90s.
Then, sometime around the late 90s (I think; guys who live here could give you a more accurate timeframe) the local government jacked up the local environmental laws (which is one non-social issue where I agree with left-wingers). Now, the air quality is pretty good again. People here joke that “you can actually see the mountain now.”
Sadly, this is the one thing the government here has done right. Now let’s get to where LA is an absolute cluster fuck.
4. Ridiculous, incompetent, left-wing government. The taxes, regulations, and government bullshit in California is insane, and the LA it’s even worse than in most of the rest of the state. If you actually live and work in LA, be prepared to spend over 60% of your income in taxes you see and taxes that are hidden from you. The personal income tax here is the highest in the nation. It’s sales tax and property tax are also among the highest in the nation (and thus the world). Combined with the already high federal taxes on all this crap, living in California means you are, quite literally, among the highest taxed people in the world. Remember I said this, because I’m going to circle back to this in a minute, making this situation even worse.
The government of California is wasteful and incompetent in the extreme, and if you’re in LA, you’re in California, paying massive taxes to one of the stupidest governments in the Western world.
You’re also subject to a list of the stupidest laws you’ve ever seen. I’ve done consulting for many firms based in LA, and the list of regulations to do business here would make even the most paperwork-loving lawyer puke.
The cost of living here is also insane. Things like housing costs aren’t quite as crazy as in San Francisco, but they’re close.
This is why I don’t live in LA. The taxes, regulations, wasteful government, and cost of living would driving me crazy within a year of living here. People who live in LA either tolerate it because of the fantastic weather, or have lived here so long they’re “used” to it and don’t realize there are other options. Oh well.
5. Driving culture. LA is structured very different than most large cities. Instead of being built vertically like New York or Hong Kong, LA was built horizontally. This means that LA is HUGE. It just goes on and on, seemingly forever, and includes many other “sub-cities.” The LA area is over 1000 square miles. Compare that to New York which is only 300 square miles, about 200 if you don’t include Staten Island. The entire country of Hong Kong, even if you include the mostly rural parts, is only 426 square miles. And remember that both New York and Hong Kong have more people.
People in LA will tell you that “every few miles, LA is a different city.” This is somewhat true. It’s so massive that there are varying subcultures all over the city. It makes for a very interesting experience.
The huge downside of all this is that everything is spread out. Nothing is close. If you ever want to go somewhere, even somewhere simple like go get groceries or go see a movie, you’ll have to get in your car and drive in the horrible traffic for at least 30 minutes, and that’s if you’re lucky. It’s a huge pain in the ass.
If you’re visiting here, your options for getting around are limited. There is a light rail system in LA but it’s somewhat pathetic considering the city’s size (in land and population) and it’s almost guaranteed to not get you exactly to where you want to go. The buses are an option but complicated if you don’t live here. Taxies are very expensive, considering the distances and traffic involved.
That leaves two options: Uber or, and I can’t believe I’m recommending this, rent a car. Usually when I say here for several days I’m pretty much forced to rent a car, something I don’t need to do in other big cities. Uber is also an option, and an increasingly good one, since Uber in LA is actually further evolved than in most other American cities. They have a new feature called “Uber Pool” where for a reduced fare you can allow the driver to pick up or drop off other Uber passengers on your route. Using this I had several Uber rides on this trip for less than $6. Not bad.
This driving problem is worse than it sounds, because:
6. Third world roads. This is the most irritating thing about LA for me as a visitor here. The roads here, including and especially the freeways, are literally like something out of the third world. Driving over freeways in LA is almost like driving off-road. There’s constant grinding, slamming, bouncing, and buzzing. Rough road that looks and feels like it hasn’t been paved in decades. Huge potholes, all over the place. It sucks ass. After driving around LA for a while, you’ll want to drive your car into a tree. On purpose.
Look, I’ve been in some pretty shitty cities. As just one example, I spent several days in Detroit earlier this year. It’s pretty hard to get shittier than that, and fucking Detroit had better quality roads than LA.
Remember I said that LA people pay some of the highest taxes in the world? With the stratospheric, ultra-high taxes you LAers pay, your roads should be the smoothest and cleanest in the world. They should be the envy of all other cities. Instead, they’re the worst in the country, literally. If I lived here, I’d be embarrassed.
Again, this is why I don’t live here as much as I enjoy visiting. If you live in LA, you’re getting financially raped every day. You’re paying massive taxes and aren’t getting shit for it from your government. Again, you can use your weather as the excuse, but I’d rather live in somewhere with moderate weather, super low-taxes, and quickly fly to LA whenever I want. Where I live is perfect this way. Low taxes (for an American anyway), decently mild but not perfect weather, and I’m less than two hours via plane away from awesome places like LA, Vegas, and Vancouver BC, and go whenever I like.
This concludes my current month-long excursion to Asia, so no more big trips for me for a few months (other than my usual jaunts to places like Vegas, etc). Next year I’ll be visiting Europe (London and Italy at least, perhaps other European locations as well), possibly the Middle East, and Asia again. More to come.
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If you think the state of the roads is bad in LA you wanna try driving in the UK I’m sure you’ll change your mind!
Visit Montreal! I want to hear what you think about this city.
Is a write-up on Sweden in the works?
BD, I’m a big fan of your work but I have to say that I’m disappointed in your ratings scale. Obviously who gives a fuck what I think of you but having traveled to places like NY, Tokyo, Seoul, France, LA sucks ass! I’m an avid daygamer and very much subscribe to the idea of making it work but can say that compared to other cities I’ve been, it would take me maybe a few minutes before seeing tons of girls I’d wanna bang where in LA, I’d have to walk for longer. To be fair, if you were in Santa Monica or west LA (in the right spots), then you might see a few but it’s not accurate to say you can just turn your head to see hotties everywhere. Plus the “ethnic” women you mentioned are so much hotter in their home countries. Most women here are fat as fuck. Anyways, I would imagine your target demographic lives in sausagefest areas such as LA, so more power to ya.
Just had to response since I’m utikizing many of the business concepts I’ve learned from your book to become location independent and travel but yeah, hell no should LA be listed as a top destination. Just like Hollywood, it’s all hype
Yes, I’ve heard about UK roads. Gotta love that big government efficiency.
I’m going to be visiting the UK in winter of 2016 doing seminars, so I’ll give you a full report.
Montreal is coming up on the list! I’ll be there in 2016 or 2017. Can’t wait to go!
Not really. Sweden is on my list, but its wayyyyyy down at the bottom. Not super interested in visiting a hyper-feminist, hyper-socialist, hyper-politically correct country. But the women are cute and the landscape is beautiful, so I’ll get around to Sweden at some point in the next few years.
I was betting that it would take at least six comments before a someone made a My City Sucks™ complaint, and you beat it by two. Congratulations.
Yes, clearly I’m all wrong about this, LA is horrible, the women there are ugly, and guys who live there are just screwed.
(Hilarious irony: There are guys in Australia who want to move to LA.)
I’m going to guess their roads are bad because they can’t just shut the highways down to do construction, like they are always doing here. There are too many people constantly driving on them.
As far as looks, I have quite a bit of family in southern California and whenever I’ve gone there to visit I’ve just thought everyone seemed super tall and super good looking. I am going to guess its a combination of things- being outside a lot (sun makes people look better, despite all the paranoia about using sunscreen), there are a lot more options for healthy eating and more fresh fruit available, plus fish, which people who live on any coast have more access to. Then there is just a ridiculous amount of pressure and competition to look good. You’ve got Hollywood and all the best plastic surgeons, etc over there. When its sunny year round people are also more motivated to exercise. My family over there always seem like they are on the newest health craze, stuff that has never made its way over here, lol.
Great article Dragon, about Los Angeles. An interesting perspective. I agree 100% about California’s horrible and crooked bureaucratic government. The Nazi Feinstein and the long list of other fascist/socialist dictators who have destroyed this state have made it very unlivable. My father grew up in Los Angeles back when it was one of the greatest places on the Earth to be. It was back in the Californian Dreamin’ days. I refuse to live in any place with as much crime as California which restricts my 2nd Amendment rights as well as taxes me so horribly I will liver a a pauper while welfare recipients and illegals can live almost as well as I do.
I will personally say that I find women in Seattle, on average to be as beautiful or more naturally beautiful than Southern Californian women. However, Southern Californian women know how to take care of their bodies and make themselves look sexier. I just believe with all the tall, voluptuous Scandinavians, Anglo-Saxonish women in Seattle, they are naturally beautiful. The city is like saturated with model grade women. However, sadly, their more feminist and anti-feminine nature, coupled with the typical laxed grungy Northwest vibe, results in these women dressing absolutely horrible. It is like women in Seattle go out of their way to look as awful as they can. Outside of Portland, I have never been to a city where women wear sweatpants and flannels to four star restaurants.
Tonight, I am going to Thanksgiving Dinner. I very well may be one of the few guys wearing a suit and tie to one of the top restaurants in town. Seattle is a very sloppy dressed city, but genetically, I can say I am amazed by the number of gorgeous women everywhere in this city. Everywhere I look another potential cover girl is in my vision.
Their dull, reserved, feminist and bland personalities coupled with sloppy dress though definitely make them appear much less sexy.
I have a preference to white women, especially Scandinavian more than any other, so I could be biased.
As far as Hispanic women, some are extremely beautiful, but I find most to be mediocre looking.
F-ing hilarious commentary about the socialists in California. For the life of me, I will never understand why people vote for politicians that insist on raising taxes… over and over again. Citizens don’t get squat for paying higher taxes. That tax money doesn’t buy better roads or amenities that benefit Joe citizen. It goes to crony politicians.
Fuck no. Seattle women are very average. You must have a very specific taste in women.
Haha! That’s the northwest, baby!
Lefties vote for local left-wing politicians primarily because they hate Republicans, not because they think the Democrats have any great ideas. Usually it’s because they think the Republican candidate is going to cut something (which of course he won’t, since most Republican politicians love big government just as much as Democrats do).
It still not a good reason to vote for these people though. It’s the elites’ genius in creating a two-party system.
Left-wingers do fall in love with national-level left-wing politicians though, and get very excited about them (Ted Kennedy, Bill Clinton, Obama, Bernie Sanders, etc).
Sounds like Sweden. Highest taxes in the world and you don’t get shit for it.
Gals are decently good looking, hyper feminists disregarded.
To fix a road, you have to shut a lane down for hours or days. The people would scream blue murder and because in the USA every level of government is elected, no one dares to do it.
Why are the fires in the US so catastophic? Because people vote against controlled burn-offs because they don’t like the smoke. Then every fifteen years its like a bomb hit and people get killed. After the fact the people are all “how could you let this happen?” at the government and the only answer is “you voted against us doing anything about it”, which they don’t dare say.
How does every other big city in the US manage it then?
The point I made in that blog post was that if the forests were owned by private entities such a vote wouldn’t be necessary.
You’re making my point for me; government is the worst way to do this.
Wait, hold up BD.
What’s your stance on Seattle outside of women? Since that’s where I’m moving to. More northeast of it, around Bellevue, Redmond.
Because I live here in LA, and you’re spot on the gripes I’ve been getting tired of.
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Fuck no. Seattle women are very average. You must have a very specific taste in women.
Haha! That’s the northwest, baby!
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I don’t mind this. And I actually like the colder rainy weather. My work is done all from my home office. And there’s a rally track nearby. But I still want to hear your thoughts on the place overall.
If you’re moving from LA to Seattle for primarily economic reasons, then YES, fucking move, and move now.
I lived in Oregon and was getting raped with taxes almost as bad as the Californians. Washington state is one of the lowest-taxed states in the US, so just by moving 20 minutes north my income went up about 14%. I’m also on the Washington-Oregon border so I don’t pay any sales tax either. I make money in Washington where there is no income tax, and buy my stuff in Oregon where there is no sales tax. Awesomeness.
Now, if you’re moving from LA to Seattle for girl reasons, then NO, stay in LA. Seattle women are “very average.” You’ve got to hunt around for hotties, whereas in LA they’re all over the place. Even Portland has one notch better-looking women than Seattle.
So it depends on why you’re moving.
I appreciate your input. The woman downgrade is disappointing, but I DO LOVE the Scandinavian look, as yonatan pointed out. Perhaps I have a similar specific taste that you speak of. Fingers crossed LOL.
I’ve lived in a very small city before and made it work. I’m sure it won’t be a problem.
The lower taxes sound great. But for me, it’s mainly the climate. The kind of nature. UGH. You guys are so lucky. Having been here most of my life, just remembering any memory of the tall trees there, the freshness in the air, all the lushness and greenery. There’s less than a handful of waterfalls here and even in season they’re fucking tiny. Most of the scenery looks dry and dead.
Hiking, of course. But also just driving around aimlessly in the woods… sounds peacefully lovely.
Anyways. Thanks. I’ll be commencing my move once I finish this final project.
Grew up in LA my whole life. Hot women are to be found, but they tend to concentrate in certain places, like West Hollywood, Santa Monica, Venice Beach strand during the weekend days in summer. Outside of those particular areas, I’d say LA women are no better than anywhere else in the country. Tons of fat and poor Mexican and central American women all over the place, and their population is massive(the majority I’m pretty sure).
Another huge problem with LA is intense competition. The ratio of men to women there skews heavily in favor of women with an excess supply of men. You have a lot of guys there in the entertainment industry making great money, driving flashing cars, wearing nice clothes, who work out and have beach bodies and nice tans. Then keep in mind that alongside Toronto and DC, LA is one of the cities that the whole game/pick up scene started. So there are a lot of dudes there that are game savvy. There’s a certain level of male competition there that you just won’t have in Cleveland, Ohio.
I’d say LA is bad place to be an AVERAGE male. Because the poor ratios and high level of competition among males means being a small fish in a huge pond full of sharks. However, if you’re a good-looking high status man, LA is great place to be.
As I’ve talked about many times, today in the modern era EVERY city is a bad place to be an average male (beta). That’s not unique to LA. Betas are fucked no matter what city they live in, be it LA or Portland or Milwaukee or wherever.
The entire point of this blog is to help men not be average. Then it’s problem solved.
While indeed there certainly are very beautiful women to find in LA, I find it surprising that you say you saw them pretty much anywhere. I lived in Los Angeles for three years, (went to USC), and outside of my college (which had an EXTRAORDINARY talent pool) most places in the city were pretty void. The main exception of course was Third Street Promenade in Santa Monica and perhaps the lunch hour in Westwood coupled with the UCLA campus. But downtown LA is a deadzone during the day and it’s just “meh/okay” status at night. Hollywood does get popping at night, but it’s merely a tourist trap during the day. My sense is that to get regular access to the hottest girls in this city, you need strong social circle game. Indeed, many of the sorority girls at USC regularly attend Hollywood Hills parties. Some of the wealthier men at USC managed to get in, but often through family connections and the like.
I know I’m late to the post here, but would be curious as to BD’s and other readers’ takes on Los Angeles given my experience.
Counterpoints; Montreal has the worst potholes, Toronto has a longer commute than LA, and that 401 is very freaky in winter. But you are correct everything is 20mins away. Plus I noticed everyone seems to drink and drive- when the tiki bar I was at shut at 1:30, the staff basically escorted everyone out- called an uber, took 20min to come- no one else in the bar did that, they just got in their cars and drove away. Defs no hotties at canters that night.
Women wise- was in La Brea, some BH, DT, Santa Monica- reasonable but not I don’t remember any super standouts in any of the lounges I went to- maybe an off night. Same with DT during the day or beach. Am moving there soon, hope I am remiss. Lots of soy boys I noticed.
What you didn’t mention is everyone seems and is super polite. Getting waved in for turns, getting that wave when you let someone in, everyone saying sorry and excuse me- politer than Canada, I was kind of shocked. Maybe it was my slight Canadian accent or Hyundai rental SUV haha.
Well according to Gavin Newsom and Jerry Brown, The Gas Tax Increase will b the magic wand to fix all the roads in California. They mismanaged their money and the rest is coming out of our ass.
I traveled to Dallas, Texas recently.. The roads there were fantastic! Yet Texas is 42% cheaper to live according to Reason TV.. Not sure how accurate that is, but Texas has far less taxes than we do here in California.. Yet the roads are magically good.
I’d say Women in general in California are just hot. Especially nowadays I’d say most women have fake boobs, injected lips, and other fillers in their face and hit the gym on the reg. Your best bet outside of LA is the gym to find a Hottie.
I’m into BDSM scene, which LA probably has one of the biggest BDSM/KINK communities in the country if not the world. Plenty of Women who I’ve met who OPENLY declare themselves as Poly. This is some of the good things about Left Wing Attitude cities.
NOTE: I’ve noticed also if you meet women who are openly Poly, BDSM, Kink scene.. They despise Donald Trump and anyone who voted for him. So either don’t vote for his ass or if you did SHUT THE FUCK UP about it if you don’t want to cock block yourself.